What units are used in spin factor and coefficient of lift formulas?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the appropriate units to use in the calculations for the spin factor and coefficient of lift in the context of a golf simulator program, particularly when incorporating the Magnus effect. Participants explore the implications of using different unit systems, primarily focusing on SI units.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the units for the spin factor and coefficient of lift, noting inconsistencies in results when using SI units.
  • Another participant suggests that the spin factor appears dimensionless, implying that unit consistency is key.
  • A third participant confirms that both the spin factor and coefficient of lift are intended to be dimensionless and shares their successful use of SI units: angular velocity in rad/s, velocity in m/s, and radius in meters.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of consistency in units, stating that angular velocity should be in units of 1/time, velocity in length over time, and radius in length, suggesting that any consistent unit system should yield valid results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for consistent units but express differing views on the specific units that should be used. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best unit system for these calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential issues with calculations yielding unexpected results, indicating that assumptions about unit consistency may not have been met initially.

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Individuals interested in programming simulations involving fluid dynamics, particularly in sports applications like golf, may find this discussion relevant.

FGD
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I am trying to add the magnus effect to a golf simulator program but am getting stuck on the coefficient of lift. What are the units I should be using in these calculations? The rest of my program I use SI units. But I seam to get weird results when using them with these equations.

Spin factor = Angular Velocity * radius / velocity
SpinFactor.PNG

Coefficient of lift = -0.05 + sqrt(0.0025 + 0.36 * radius * abs[angular velocity/velocity])
Coefficient of lift.PNG

I've seen angular velocity in rpm or rad/s or...
I've seen velocity in mph or m/s or...
I've seen radius in inches or meters or...

The Coefficient of lift formula is taken from this paper.
The Spin factor from this paper.

If I get the proper units it should provide a graph with similar results to these. Left coefficient of lift, bottom spin factor.
CL_Chart.PNG

If you know of better research papers or source code, I would love a link.
An example problem would also be very helpful.

Thanks
 
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FGD said:
What are the units I should be using in these calculations?
The spin factor looks dimensionless to me.
 
Yeah, both are supposed to be dimensionless. I was getting all kinds of weird results last night. (Maybe too tired) I tried again with SI units and calculations work now...
Angular Velocity = rad/s
Velocity = meters/s
radius = meters
Thanks for the reply.
 
Any units should work as long as you're consistent, so angular velocity is in units of 1/time (radians are kinda dimensionless), velocity is length over time, and radius is length. As long as your velocity and radius both use the same units of length, and similarly, your angular velocity and velocity both use the same units of time, you should be good.

So, you could do radius in miles, velocity in mi/hr, and angular velocity in rad/hr and it should work fine too.
 

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