What was most helpful understanding Signals and Systems?

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The discussion centers on strategies for understanding Signals and Systems (S&S), particularly for third-year electrical engineering students. Key tools identified include MATLAB, specifically its signal processing and communications toolboxes, which aid in grasping fundamental concepts like Linear Time-Invariant (LTI) systems and Bounded Input Bounded Output (BIBO) stability. Participants emphasize the importance of intuition and practical application of mathematical concepts, particularly in time and frequency domains, to enhance comprehension of transforms such as Fourier and Laplace. Engaging with real-time scenarios and familiar systems is recommended for better understanding.

PREREQUISITES
  • Familiarity with MATLAB and its signal processing toolboxes
  • Understanding of Linear Time-Invariant (LTI) and Linear Time-Variant (LTV) systems
  • Knowledge of Bounded Input Bounded Output (BIBO) stability
  • Basic concepts of operational mathematics, including Fourier and Laplace transforms
NEXT STEPS
  • Learn advanced MATLAB techniques for signal processing
  • Study the implications of Linear Time-Invariant (LTI) systems in practical applications
  • Explore Bounded Input Bounded Output (BIBO) stability in various system contexts
  • Investigate the practical applications of Fourier and Laplace transforms in signal analysis
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Electrical engineering students, educators, and professionals seeking to deepen their understanding of Signals and Systems, particularly those struggling with foundational concepts and practical applications of mathematical transforms.

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Hey guys! This is my first day on the forum so, hey! I'm a third year electrical engineering student and I'm really having some trouble with Signals and Systems so I want to know what helped other people understand it so that maybe I could try some of their methods.

What were your biggest conceptual hurdles and what helped you get over them? What tools or methods help you understand S&S more holistically and what just made it easier to do?

Thanks all!
 
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Operational mathematics... otherwise known as transform calculus (FFT, Laplace etc...)
 
Hello, welcome to forum.

Your question is rather broad, just what part of the course are you having difficulty with? Are you decent using linear algebra, it's generally pretty important for the subject. Other than that, some specific questions would help garner more replies I reckon.

As far as tools, a lot of students will use Matlab for their S&S courses. So becoming familiar with the signal processing and communications toolboxes and general Matlab syntax can be helpful.
 
Student100 said:
Hello, welcome to forum.

Your question is rather broad, just what part of the course are you having difficulty with? Are you decent using linear algebra, it's generally pretty important for the subject. Other than that, some specific questions would help garner more replies I reckon.

As far as tools, a lot of students will use Matlab for their S&S courses. So becoming familiar with the signal processing and communications toolboxes and general Matlab syntax can be helpful.

Thanks for the replies guys,

I suppose the types of concepts that I'm having the most trouble grasping are the most fundamental ones such as what is an LTI vs LTV System? Also BIBO stability is one that I've had a hard time grasping. I will try to become more familiar with Matlab, hopefully that will assist in a more in depth comprehension of some of these concepts. Thanks!
 
Dr Transport said:
Operational mathematics... otherwise known as transform calculus (FFT, Laplace etc...)

Honestly FFT and Laplace transformations are pretty simple to me. I think the I just have a hard time grasping what these transforms translate to in practical application (e.g filter/signal types)
 
Hello Woa90210, welcome to PF. Third year here. I survived S&S...:oldbiggrin:
Well yes, If you are really bent on completely understanding S&S practically in third year, you need a decent dose of intuition! :DD
Nothing much, learn Matlab well, it's a boon for S&S students like you.
You need to be imaginative enough, and understand the application of mathematics you have learned till date.
Whenever you feel stuck, try putting that scenario on a system you are already familiar.
Then relate the math that comes out of it with the real time output.
Spend time understanding concepts in time and frequency domains, probably you need to be good at this, if you want to understand transforms.
 
PhysicoRaj said:
Hello Woa90210, welcome to PF. Third year here. I survived S&S...:oldbiggrin:
Well yes, If you are really bent on completely understanding S&S practically in third year, you need a decent dose of intuition! :DD
Nothing much, learn Matlab well, it's a boon for S&S students like you.
You need to be imaginative enough, and understand the application of mathematics you have learned till date.
Whenever you feel stuck, try putting that scenario on a system you are already familiar.
Then relate the math that comes out of it with the real time output.
Spend time understanding concepts in time and frequency domains, probably you need to be good at this, if you want to understand transforms.

Thanks soooo much PhisicoRaj! This is more so what I was looking for :) Thanks a ton. Gonna spend some more time in the beginning chapters of my S&S book and more time with MATLAB. Thanks again!
 
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Hey Woa90210.

If you understand what the basis of these transforms represent and put them in context then it should be a lot easier to interpret how the space organizes information and what the coefficients of each space represent.

This is for any sort of harmonic analysis space/transform (Fourier, Laplace, Wavelets, etc).

What is happening is you are projecting information to a basis, doing something in a new space and then often reconstructing the new information.

Many spaces deal with certain kinds of "frequencies" but there are many kinds of spaces that signals can be projected to with all interesting properties.
 
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