What would a Primordial super force look like?

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The discussion centers on the concept of a "Primordial super force" that existed just after the Big Bang, from which gravity separated. Key questions include its potential characteristics, such as whether it would bend space and time or possess positive and negative charges like magnetism. The conversation highlights the challenge of recreating this super force in experiments, noting that current technology cannot reach the necessary energy scales for probing unification. While there is some understanding of the Grand Unified Force (GUF) that combines electromagnetic and nuclear forces, the full unification theory remains undiscovered. Ultimately, the discussion concludes that much about the primordial super force and its effects is still unknown.
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I've been informed that split seconds after the big bang gravity separated from a "Primordial super force".

So what would this super force have looked like just before gravity split from it? Would it have bend space and time? Would it have a positive and negative charge like magnetism? What would the equations be that show it's strength within any given range? Can it's effects be duplicated in an experiment like in a cyclotron perhaps? What temperature would you have to have to recreate a primordial super force?
 
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Unfortunately, the fully unified theory has not yet been discovered. The honest but unsatisfactory answer? Noboby knows.
 
Negeng said:
Can it's effects be duplicated in an experiment like in a cyclotron perhaps? What temperature would you have to have to recreate a primordial super force?
At least this much we know. The unification of gravity with the other three forces is likely to occur very close to the Planck energy, \sim 10^{19} GeV. Current accelerator technology, like the LHC at CERN, is capable of obtaining 10's of TeVs of center of mass collision energy. Unfortunately, we will never probe the scale of unification with terrestrial experiments.

By the way, there is much more known about the likely forms of the grand unified force consisting of the now separate electromagnetic, and weak and strong nuclear forces.
 
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By the way, there is much more known about the likely forms of the grand unified force consisting of the now separate electromagnetic, and weak and strong nuclear forces.

Hey that might be interesting. What would a GUF (Grand Unified Force) look like? Thank you for responding to my question by the way
 
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we still lack the mathematics that would allow us to predict the structure and properties of the quark-gluon plasma starting from its basic physics law. We can calculate some of its properties by means of raw computer power, but that does not tell us how it works.
 
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