What would be impossible to build and why?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of building certain structures and machines, exploring the reasons behind current design choices and limitations. Topics include the materials used in construction, the practicality of double-decker vehicles, and theoretical constraints in engineering and physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why certain items, like guns and bridges, are made from specific materials and designs, suggesting that economics, safety, and material limitations play significant roles.
  • One participant argues that the design of vehicles, such as lorries, is often driven by common sense and efficiency, questioning the practicality of double-decker lorries.
  • Another participant points out exceptions to the single-deck lorry design, mentioning flatbed semi container trucks and auto transports as examples of double-decker configurations.
  • There is a claim that it is impossible to build a 100% efficient machine and that certain thermodynamic limits, like those posed by the Carnot cycle, cannot be surpassed.
  • One participant asserts that while certain constructions are theoretically possible, practical limitations such as cornering forces and center of gravity must be considered in the design of double-decker vehicles.

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Participants express differing views on the practicality and feasibility of double-decker vehicles and the reasons behind material choices in construction. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

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Participants reference various constraints, such as economic factors, material limitations, and theoretical principles, without reaching a consensus on the implications of these factors for construction and design.

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why are guns metal? why are bridges made the way they are? why do we not make double decker lorries? this is my thinking... you follow?
 
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ok... what about - what would you like to make but cant?
 
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No seriously, things are put together the way they are for a number of reasons. Sometimes it's economics. Sometimes it's safety. Sometimes it's convenience. Sometimes it's simply because there is only one way to put something together and still have it work or stay in once piece due to limitations in materials used. As we come up with new materials, things change.
 
Most things are built the way they are because that is the cheapest way of achieving the customer specification.

What purpose would double decker lorries serve, except to reduce the amount of things you can carry on one? Common sense is usually a significant driver in why things are built the way they are. Why give a lorry two decks when it performs its function better with one?
 
I must point out two exceptions to that, Brewski, although both are special-purpose instances. Flatbed semi container trucks could be considered 'double-decker', since they usually carry one container on top of another. That's a bit of a stretch, but acceptable. The other is auto transports, such as those that deliver from the factory to the dealerships. Those have two decks so as to double the number of cars that can fit on them.

Monty, guns are steel because until very recently that was the only material strong enough. They now have some that are made almost exclusively of various plastics. As far as I know, though, they still need a steel sleeve in the barrel to bite into the bullet for ballistic spin.
 
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monty28 said:
why are guns metal? why are bridges made the way they are? why do we not make double decker lorries? this is my thinking... you follow?

It's impossible to build a 100% efficient machine,

You can't have a thermodynamic heat engine that is more efficient than the idealized Carnot cycle,

You can't make Gold out of Lead,

You can't close Pandora's Box once it's open...

However:

You CAN make a gun out of only ceramics,
EDIT: Well, 95% ceramics anyway

You CAN make bridges in an infinite number of configurations, just try and number how many different kinds there are,

You CAN make a double decker anything, but you CAN'T overcome cornering forces, center of gravity, or low bridges...
 
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