What Would Life Be Like on a Hypothetical Cube-Shaped Earth?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the hypothetical scenario of a cube-shaped Earth, focusing on the implications for gravity, topography, and human perception of the environment. Participants engage in speculative reasoning about how walking toward corners or edges would feel, the nature of ocean surfaces, and the overall experience of living on such a planet.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that walking toward the corners of a cube-shaped Earth would feel like walking uphill, while others question this assumption.
  • There is speculation about how gravity would behave at the vertices, with some suggesting they might act like mountains, influencing water flow.
  • Participants discuss the appearance of the ocean surface, with some arguing it would not be flat due to gravity vectors being perpendicular to the mean water surface.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of turbulence in water on a cubic planet and whether energy sources would be necessary for such turbulence to exist.
  • Some participants express interest in the visual perception of the landscape, questioning whether it would appear tilted from different vantage points.
  • Humorous remarks about the cultural implications of a cube-shaped Earth are made, including references to "spherical cows" and societal stereotypes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of views on the nature of gravity and perception on a cube-shaped Earth, with no clear consensus reached on many of the speculative aspects discussed.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unresolved assumptions about the behavior of water and gravity on a cubic planet, as well as the impact of topographical features on human experience.

  • #31
Then E would = MC3
 
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  • #32
hankaaron said:
Then E would = MC3


I loled
 
  • #33
collinsmark said:
Your idea of what "down" is (and feels like) would always be pointed toward the center of the huge cube.

I need to correct myself. On the cube Earth, the direction of what "down" is (and feels like) is not necessarily pointed precisely at the center. It's pointed near the center, but not necessarily directly at it.
 
  • #34
I thought flat-earth models weren't allowed in this forum:redface:
 
  • #35
DiracPool said:
I thought flat-earth models weren't allowed in this forum:redface:

A cubic Earth is not a flat Earth :-p
 
  • #36
micromass said:
A cubic Earth is not a flat Earth :-p

Yes it is. There's just more "flat" there. In fact, there's 6 TIMES as much flat on a cubic Earth than your "regular" flat Earth. I did the math:approve:
 
  • #37
DiracPool said:
Yes it is. There's just more "flat" there. In fact, there's 6 TIMES as much flat on a cubic Earth than your "regular" flat Earth. I did the math:approve:


No, it's flat3, silly.
 
  • #38
Eohlas said:
Good question! Now I'm going to be asking everyone I know this question.

I also thought it was, it's kind of a good thought experiment if you think about it.
 
  • #39
The gravity vector field for an ideal cube is pretty straightforward. How about an ideal torus? Where can you have an ocean on an Earth mass/volume torus? (only undergrads please).
 
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  • #40
SW VandeCarr said:
The gravity vector field for an ideal cube is pretty straightforward.

Are you sure about that? :smile:

I tried to find the vector field representing the force on a given point an any particular face last night, but needles to say I was not successful. Setting up the triple, definite integral is easy enough. But evaluating it is a bear. Even Mathematica gave up when evaluating it directly. As Micromass said, "well, if Mathematica can't solve it..."

Maybe it's easier to work with gravitational potential first like these folks did:
http://possiblywrong.wordpress.com/2011/09/09/if-the-earth-were-a-cube/. (I haven't checked their math yet, btw. Instead I gave up and went to sleep. Maybe later.) Once the gravitational potential is calculated, the vector force field can be found by taking the gradient.

Here is something else that might come in useful:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1206.3857.pdf
 
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  • #41
collinsmark said:
Are you sure about that?

haven't checked their math yet, btw. Instead I gave up and went to sleep. Maybe later.) Once the gravitational potential is calculated, the vector force field can be found by taking the gradient.

Here is something else that might come in useful:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1206.3857.pdf

Sorry. I was only thinking of the direction of the vector, not it's length (representing the acceleration on a test mass). In line with OP, I was only concerned the perception of "tilt'. Given an ideal cube with uniform density, I just assumed all vectors point toward the center of mass.

That's not true for a torus.

EDIT: Thanks for the link. It seems there is some directional distortion of the vectors due to the mass around the vertices. This does doesn't surprise me. I didn't consider it important wrt the OP's question.
 
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  • #42
I wonder

Just like spherical Earth isn't perfectly smooth and that there are horizontal plains where people live even in the mountainous regions, In the cube earth, there will be cities built on plains that are perpendicular to the gravitational vector fields at that place.
But as you move from cities on the center to cities towards the edges, you will always need to travel steep highways.
But the gravity in the cities that lie on the edges will be much lower (or will it be?)
Basketball baskets will be placed higher there because people can jump higher.
Oceans will be only located at the centers, rivers will be very steep and enormous potential for hydro-power. The edges are like enormous mountains.

How would an artificial satellite fly?
 
  • #43
I think the most profound characteristic of the cube Earth would be its atmosphere. The only natural, survivable atmosphere would not extend to the cube corners or even the edges. (The same is true with water.)

Neglecting microbes that might rarely traverse faces via meteor impacts (and if they survive that), all of life on a given cube face is completely isolated from all other faces of the cube planet.

The natural, biological evolution of all species on the planet would be completely isolated between cube faces (again, except perhaps for those rare microbes that might survive a meteor blast).

Serious technology would have to first be created by any intelligent species before attempting to traverse faces. Airline travel is obviously right out (there is no air at the edges, so there can be no airplanes at the edges). Space-suits would have to be invented. Also, one couldn't drive a unmodified, conventional car to the edges either, since internal combustion engines require air to operate. Traveling from one face to another would be something sort of akin to an Apollo mission.

Resulting life on one face could/would be absolutely different than on other faces. Traveling from one face to another would be like traveling to an alien world.

I_am_learning said:
How would an artificial satellite fly?

That's a good question. Low-earth-orbit satellites are right out. On our Earth, the International Space Station is only about 230 miles (370 km) above the surface. On a typically sized globe, that's to scale with about the width of a finger or thumb. It goes without saying that that wouldn't work for a cube.

Perhaps satellites farther out, such as geosynchronous satellites might be possible/practical. But it would be tricky.
 
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