What would probably be the most impactful steps to stop seal bashing?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around potential impactful steps to stop seal bashing, exploring various viewpoints on the significance of the issue, the sustainability of seal hunting, and the methods of raising awareness. The conversation includes both advocacy for seals and skepticism about the urgency of the cause.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose creating a club to raise awareness about seal bashing and suggest names like "Club Seals" or "Club Baby Seals."
  • Others argue that stopping seal bashing may not be as important as perceived, citing the sustainability of the seal hunt and the increase in seal populations over the past 30 years.
  • Concerns are raised about the economic implications for families relying on seal hunting for income, with some questioning why the focus is on seals rather than other endangered species.
  • There is a suggestion that the methods of killing seals may be humane, referencing a study by the Canadian Veterinarian Association.
  • Some participants express that the thread should focus on actionable ideas to stop seal bashing rather than debating its importance.
  • One participant highlights the difference between seal hunting and seal bashing, suggesting that the latter is more systematic and profit-driven.
  • There are humorous exchanges about the effectiveness of proposed awareness campaigns, including bumper stickers.
  • Some participants emphasize the need for creative ideas to address the issue, while others suggest that the discussion may not belong in a science forum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no consensus on the importance of stopping seal bashing or the best methods to achieve that goal. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the significance and implications of seal hunting.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the thread may not be the appropriate venue for political discussions regarding seal protection, indicating a potential limitation in the scope of the conversation.

  • #61
And by the way, isn't there something odd about the title of this thread?

"What would probably be the most impactful steps to stop seal bashing?"
or,
What would probably be the most bashing steps to stop seal bashing?
 
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Government of Canada backs up Evo.
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/seal-phoque/faq-eng.htm#q9
Seals cannot be legally hunted until they have moulted their first coats and are living independently from their mothers. Seals are not usually hunted until they reach the "beater" stage of development at around 25 days old.
 
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  • #63
MotoH said:
And you do know what you are talking about? All you have posted is some dribble about how killing seals is bad. You don't even want to see the other side of the story. I am willing to listen to your points for the saving of the seals if you don't come off with a huge bias as you have already.

I am not even going to touch on the PM, trying to silence me? Grow up.
Yes, I do. I have researched it.

Your refusal to adhere to guidelines and your attitude are in violation of our guidelines. It wasn't a PM, too bad you didn't read it.

You're going on vacation, hopefully you will be enlightened when you return.
 
  • #64
I don't think anyone in this thread actually advocates clubbing to death a month old seal. If they do, they haven't said so explicitly. I think they are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

This thread was locked; it should be again. No one is offering useful advice to the OP at this point.
 
  • #65
Evo said:
According to the CBC article I posted it is legal to club seals over 12 days old in Canada. You posted no link. Please link to the Canadian law that does not allow this.

Again, I ask, can someone provide a rational reason that clubbing 12 day old seals to death is necessary? This has nothing to do with being for or against a hunt, just justify why the killing has to be so uncontrolled and brutal.

they probably have the thickest and warmest fur when they are very young and haven't yet accumulated much fat. if still white, it would make for decent camouflage.

as for the "brutality", a heavy bash to the skull should make for a swift death. it just evokes a strong emotional reaction, is all.
 
  • #66
dotman said:
I don't think anyone in this thread actually advocates clubbing to death a month old seal. If they do, they haven't said so explicitly. I think they are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

This thread was locked; it should be again. No one is offering useful advice to the OP at this point.

well, that's your opinion. i thought my idea was brilliant. and I'm not even against clubbing seals. it's no different than using cows for shoe leather to me. only thing is, i think they shouldn't waste all that meat.

as for your idea, I'm still waiting. it seemed to be giving money to raise awareness, yet you think simply raising awareness is pointless.
 
  • #67
Proton Soup said:
as for the "brutality", a heavy bash to the skull should make for a swift death. it just evokes a strong emotional reaction, is all.

Being hit in the head with a club is not a swift death. But you're missing the point. They don't hit the seals in the head to kill them. They hit them in the head to stun them enough that the seals don't squirm around while they skin them. Alive.

It's a brutal practice, and should be stopped.
 
  • #68
This thread is going nowhere. Closed.
 

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