What writing instruments do you use?

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The discussion centers around the search for a suitable writing instrument after a user relocates for college and can no longer find their preferred navy blue gel pen. The user expresses interest in trying fountain pens and rollerballs but is concerned about their practicality for extensive writing, particularly in math. Various participants share their experiences and preferences, highlighting the popularity of rollerball pens and mechanical pencils, especially for math-related tasks. Recommendations include the Sanford Uniball Micro, Pentel Energel, and Rapidograph pens for fine writing. Some users mention the challenges of using fountain pens, particularly for left-handed writers, while others advocate for drafting pens due to their precision. The conversation also touches on the importance of pen feel and writing experience, with many expressing a strong preference for specific brands and types of pens and pencils. Overall, the thread illustrates a community of pen enthusiasts sharing insights and recommendations for effective writing tools.
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Here's the problem. Having traveled 15000km to my new college, I've come to realize that I cannot find the beautiful, extra fine tip, navy blue gel ink that I've used for 11 years.

Now I'm desperately for a new pen, one that can give me the same, smooth, effortless feel with minimal smudge (I'm left handed...) I feel very tempted to try a fountain pen, or a Mont Blanc rollerball... but given that I write a lot, I don't know how sustainable this will be...

What do you guys use to write math most of the time? Does anyone actually use a fountain pen to do math?
 
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I mostly use Sanford Uniball Micro for most purposes. inexpensive and writes well for me, wish it came as a retractable.
 
My favorite pen is the Retro Tornado 151. You can use Space Pen refils in it. Though I do not think they make fine points for it. But it has a nice flow.

I tried using a fountain pen, it is too problematic.

If you want to go that way, use drafting/ technical drawing pens. You can get very fine points and it is fountain pen. Rapidograph is probably the best. They are not cheap, and they are not designed for regular paper, so it will clog on you. I have them for drawing.

here is where I shop for pens. http://thewritersedge.com/welcome.cfm for interesting pens
 
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Hmm, seems like rollerballs are most popular. It's seriously hard to write subscripts/superscripts using a ballpoint, and that's also the same reason why I don't like 0.7mm or thicker tips.

Insanity - Wow that pen is cheap and pretty. I should get one to test. The pen that I've used all this time is retractable.

airborne - I've tried technical drawing pens but they seem to offer quite a lot of resistance. Okay, I'll check the site!

what - ): 0.7mm. But I should give that a try too.

Any fountain pen recommendations?
 
ephedyn said:
Here's the problem. Having traveled 15000km to my new college, I've come to realize that I cannot find the beautiful, extra fine tip, navy blue gel ink that I've used for 11 years.

Now I'm desperately for a new pen, one that can give me the same, smooth, effortless feel with minimal smudge (I'm left handed...) I feel very tempted to try a fountain pen, or a Mont Blanc rollerball... but given that I write a lot, I don't know how sustainable this will be...

What do you guys use to write math most of the time? Does anyone actually use a fountain pen to do math?

For math, I always use a mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead, HB or 2B. On an engineer's computation pad.
 
Schaeffer probably has the best selection. That is what I used. They have a cartridge type system, or used to, and the supplies were widely available from the average office supply store. I have not used one in years.
 
Rapidograph is possibly the best fountain pen for lettering and drafting. The nib is a small tube with a central wire with an inboard weight, so you can shake it if ink flow is inconsistent. Not cheap, not low-maintenance, but I loved them.

You might want to try visiting your college bookstore and some office-supply places. They all have sample pens and some paper out there so you can see if a pen "calls" to you (dances with drawing instruments). I've got some cheap bulk-pack Pentel pens that do a great job, don't skip, and the ink seems to last a long time. Plus, they are retractable, though the pocket clips seem a bit brittle. I tend to wear flannel or fleece in the winter, and I have broken a couple of clips sticking the pens in my pockets.
 
lisab said:
For math, I always use a mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead, HB or 2B. On an engineer's computation pad.

lisa have you ever tried a 2mm drafting lead holder? You can get a sharp point on them and a wider range of lead. I like harder lead for the longer lasting point. like 3H.
 
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Very interesting spread of users here.

lisab: D: gosh, lead. I don't know why but personally, writing in lead kills off my productivity/inspiration/intuition. I doodle in lead but whenever I'm working on serious, I just have to ink it so that it's bright and gay. The computation pad sounds costly!

airborne: Got it, thanks!

turbo-1: Good idea. It's night now, but I'll drop by the bookstore tomorrow morning.

Okay, so I'll try stuffing that Mont Blanc refill in a G2, the Sanford and Pentel Energel, and look at Schaeffer, rapidograph, and Pilot (the Vanishing Point sounds highly recommended) for their fountain pens. Looks like a pretty good range of pens to try. Thanks guys.
 
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ephedyn said:
Very interesting spread of users here.

lisab: D: gosh, lead. I don't know why but personally, writing in lead kills off my productivity/inspiration/intuition. I doodle in lead but whenever I'm working on serious, I just have to ink it so that it's bright and gay. The computation pad sounds costly!

airborne: Got it, thanks!

turbo-1: Good idea. It's night now, but I'll drop by the bookstore tomorrow morning.

Okay, so I'll try stuffing that Mont Blanc refill in a G2, the Sanford and Pentel Energel, and look at Schaeffer, rapidograph, and Pilot (the Vanishing Point sounds highly recommended) for their fountain pens. Looks like a pretty good range of pens to try. Thanks guys.
Good luck! Choosing a new pen (if you write a lot, as I did) is a serious enterprise (and fun!).
 
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airborne18 said:
lisa have you ever tried a 2mm drafting lead holder? You can get a sharp point on them and a wider range of lead. I like harder lead for the longer lasting point. like 3H.

Yes, years ago I took drafting and I used one of those. Problem is, I like a very dark line, and of course a soft lead dulls quickly. So the very thin lead works OK, I get my dark line without having to sharpen frequently.
 
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ephedyn said:
Very interesting spread of users here.

lisab: D: gosh, lead. I don't know why but personally, writing in lead kills off my productivity/inspiration/intuition. I doodle in lead but whenever I'm working on serious, I just have to ink it so that it's bright and gay. The computation pad sounds costly!

airborne: Got it, thanks!

turbo-1: Good idea. It's night now, but I'll drop by the bookstore tomorrow morning.

Okay, so I'll try stuffing that Mont Blanc refill in a G2, the Sanford and Pentel Energel, and look at Schaeffer, rapidograph, and Pilot (the Vanishing Point sounds highly recommended) for their fountain pens. Looks like a pretty good range of pens to try. Thanks guys.

Oh those computational pads are ridiculously expensive! They didn't used to be.

But when I get just the right pencil, just the right pad, and sit in one particular room at the University of Washington library...ah, it's great, I can really get stuff done. I've done it so much my brain is trained to turn off all the silliness and just focus :smile:.
 
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turbo-1: Yup, thanks!
 
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lisab said:
For math, I always use a mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead, HB or 2B. On an engineer's computation pad.
Me too - MonAmi D153 mechanical pencil and HB 0.5 mm. I've had it so long that the print has worn off.

Otherwise, Sanford Uniball Micro for most purposes. I've used Pilot Razor points as well, but I kept ruining the tips.
 
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My favorite pencil is a Caran D'ache Fixpencil 2. It is old and simple, but it is works perfectly with no gimmicks and no jammed leads. I like it for jotting notes and sketching. When sketching, I use a moderate or mildly hard lead, so that I can darken gradually with repetition and layering. Cross-hatch with a harder lead, to get a soft gray...
 
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turbo-1 said:
My favorite pencil is a Caran D'ache Fixpencil 2. It is old and simple, but it is works perfectly with no gimmicks and no jammed leads. I like it for jotting notes and sketching. When sketching, I use a moderate or mildly hard lead, so that I can darken gradually with repetition and layering. Cross-hatch with a harder lead, to get a soft gray...

I have been buying up 2mm lead on ebay. Well I did until I got ripped off on something, so I packed up my marbles and went home.
 
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I like black markers and pens, blue just doesn't do my margin doodling justice.

I buy all my pencils and pens by the box. I lose them at such an astonishing rate that I simply cannot afford to invest in any quality ones.

Do any other lefties fill their notebooks from back to front?
 
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airborne18 said:
I have been buying up 2mm lead on ebay. Well I did until I got ripped off on something, so I packed up my marbles and went home.
I should start looking around. My supply is limited and I really want to use this pencil for a LONG time, if possible.
 
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ephedyn said:
what - ): 0.7mm. But I should give that a try too.

They have them in 0.5 mm too.
 
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lisab: I see lol I can get what you mean. My friend was just pointing out how silly it is to use a $130 pen to scribble some calculations or attempts to solve a problem... but I guess pen and paper is to us as a racquet is to a tennis player, and it really matters so long as you get the feel.

Astronuc: Ah that Sanford thing sounds really good. I've never seen one of those back home. Aw the lettering wore off? Well ever since I started using a Pilot drafting mechanical pencil (H-325), I couldn't get used to any other mechanical pencil. I kept losing it though - I've lost 3, but the streak of bad luck never turned me off getting it over and over again. Too bad I can only get it from Japan now, so I only have one with me. If I find it ever again I'll get you one!
 
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DaveC426913 said:
I like black markers and pens, blue just doesn't do my margin doodling justice.

I buy all my pencils and pens by the box. I lose them at such an astonishing rate that I simply cannot afford to invest in any quality ones.

Do any other lefties fill their notebooks from back to front?

Sorry, I start from the front :s But I dislike blue for similar reasons.
 
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turbo-1 said:
My favorite pencil is a Caran D'ache Fixpencil 2. It is old and simple, but it is works perfectly with no gimmicks and no jammed leads. I like it for jotting notes and sketching. When sketching, I use a moderate or mildly hard lead, so that I can darken gradually with repetition and layering. Cross-hatch with a harder lead, to get a soft gray...

I'd post a lot of heart eyed smileys if I could find them :)
 
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I'm still using the hammer and chisel i bought 50 years ago.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
I buy all my pencils and pens by the box. I lose them at such an astonishing rate that I simply cannot afford to invest in any quality ones.
I bought a bag of 12 plastic mechanical pencils for a dollar about 15 years ago and I just took the last one out of the bag a few months ago. I can't afford it either, but my wife said she would lend me another dollar.
 
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Please excuse the minor off-topic diversion here, but ...
ephedyn said:
... (I'm left handed...)
ephedyn said:
):
ephedyn said:
D:
... do most left-handers do smileys (and frownies) facing the opposite way from how right-handers do them? Never noticed this until now.
 
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fuzzyfelt said:
I'd post a lot of heart eyed smileys if I could find them :)

For some reaon, not all smilies show on IE (I don't have that issue when I use Chrome). The heart-eyed smilie recipe is as follows

: + ! + ! + ) = :!)

For lefties it's

( + ! + ! + : = (!:

Hmm.
 
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gokul43201 said:
please excuse the minor off-topic diversion here, but ...

... Do most left-handers do smileys (and frownies) facing the opposite way from how right-handers do them? Never noticed this until now.

Interesting thought!

lisab said:
for some reaon, not all smilies show on ie (i don't have that issue when i use chrome). The heart-eyed smilie recipe is as follows

: + ! + ! + ) = :!)

for lefties it's

( + ! + ! + : = (!:

Hmm.

:biggrin: Thanks lisab!

turbo-1 said:
my favorite pencil is a caran d'ache fixpencil 2. It is old and simple, but it is works perfectly with no gimmicks and no jammed leads. I like it for jotting notes and sketching. When sketching, i use a moderate or mildly hard lead, so that i can darken gradually with repetition and layering. Cross-hatch with a harder lead, to get a soft gray...
:!) :!) :!) :!)

Yay, it works!
 
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I prefer the Papermate Sharpwriter Mechanical Pencil, myself (0.7 lead)...

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I also like the Blue G-2 Fine Point Pen (whenever I have to use pen)...

[URL]http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0/b0/d/AAAACwV_mfgAAAAAALDVYw.jpg?v=1266426523000[/URL]Just a note: I find that the RED INK PILOT G-2 PENS aren't consistently functional, for some reasons (they get clogged easily). When they're good, they're great; but when they suck, they suck real bad, and make you want to stab the manufacturer. It's a hit or miss with the reds.
 
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FrancisZ said:
Just a note: I find that the RED INK PILOT G-2 PENS aren't consistently functional, for some reasons (they get clogged easily). When they're good, they're great; but when they suck, they suck real bad, and make you want to stab the manufacturer. It's a hit or miss with the reds.
Manufacturers occasionally find cheaper sources for the red ink.

Why, I remember this one office supply shop, in old London, where the red pens were dirt cheap. It was on the ground floor, under a barber shop. Can't remember the name... Sweeney something...
 

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