Whats wrong with my work for improper integral?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the improper integral ∫^{∞}_{1}\frac{dx}{x(2x+5)}. The original poster attempts to verify their solution against a result provided by Mathematica, which indicates a different evaluation involving natural logarithms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the evaluation of the integral, particularly focusing on the limits and the natural logarithm expressions used. There are questions about the notation of natural logarithm and the evaluation of specific terms at certain limits.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's work, pointing out potential errors in the evaluation of limits and the notation used. There is recognition of confusion regarding the natural logarithm notation and its implications in the context of the integral evaluation.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the challenges associated with evaluating limits involving infinity, specifically the expression ∞ - ∞, which has led to some misunderstanding in the calculations presented.

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Homework Statement


[itex]∫^{∞}_{1}[/itex][itex]\frac{dx}{x(2x+5)}[/itex]

Homework Equations


Mathematica told me that the answer was [itex]\frac{1}{5}[/itex]nl([itex]\frac{7}{2}[/itex])

The Attempt at a Solution


This is my work.

[itex]∫^{∞}_{1}[/itex][itex]\frac{dx}{x(2x+5)}[/itex] = [itex]lim_{M\rightarrow∞}[/itex][itex]∫^{M}_{1}[/itex][itex]\frac{dx}{x(2x+5)}[/itex] = [itex]lim_{M\rightarrow∞}[/itex][itex]∫^{M}_{1}[/itex][itex]\frac{\frac{1}{5}}{x}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{\frac{-2}{5}}{2x+5}[/itex] = [itex]lim_{M\rightarrow∞}[/itex](([itex]\frac{1}{5}[/itex][itex]∫^{M}_{1}[/itex][itex]\frac{1}{x}[/itex])-([itex]\frac{2}{5}[/itex][itex]∫^{M}_{1}[/itex][itex]\frac{1}{2x+5}[/itex])) = [itex]lim_{M\rightarrow∞}[/itex][itex]\frac{1}{5}[/itex][itex](nl(x)-nl(2x+5))^{M}_{1}[/itex] = [itex]lim_{M\rightarrow∞}[/itex][itex]\frac{1}{5}[/itex]((nl(M)-nl(2M+5))-(nl(1)-nl(7))) = [itex]lim_{M\rightarrow∞}[/itex][itex]\frac{1}{5}[/itex]((nl(M)-nl(2M+5))-(0-nl(7))) = [itex]\frac{1}{5}[/itex]((∞-∞)+nl(7)) = [itex]\frac{1}{5}[/itex]nl(7) .

I'm looking at it over and over again but I just can't seem to figure out where that nl(2) from mathematica came from. Could someone please look at my work and tell me what is wrong with it? I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
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I've never seen natural log as nl. Usually it's either ln, or simply log.

Where you have nl(1), you should have nl(2) for nl(2x+5) evaluated at x = 1.

That should do it !
 
SammyS said:
I've never seen natural log as nl. Usually it's either ln, or simply log.

Where you have nl(1), you should have nl(2) for nl(2x+5) evaluated at x = 1.

That should do it !

Hi SammyS,

Thanks for the help. I knew nl looked kind of weird. haha. For the sake of keeping it from getting confusing I'll finish this thread with it.

I don't understand what you mean though. For nl(1), I had nl(x) and I evaluated at x = 1. That's why I had nl(1). Shouldn't nl(2x+5) evaluated a x = 1 be nl(7)?
 
You have a problem evaluating the upper limit of the integral as M approaches infinity. In your next to last expression, infinity - infinity is not equal to zero.

It would be easier to determine the indefinite integral before applying the limits of integration.
 
DeadOriginal said:
Hi SammyS,

Thanks for the help. I knew nl looked kind of weird. haha. For the sake of keeping it from getting confusing I'll finish this thread with it.

I don't understand what you mean though. For nl(1), I had nl(x) and I evaluated at x = 1. That's why I had nl(1). Shouldn't nl(2x+5) evaluated a x = 1 be nl(7)?
Yes, you are correct. I merely had a brain cramp. (DUH !)

Look at SteamKing's post. regarding ∞ - ∞. I think that's where you may find the ln(2) you're looking for.
 
OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. *bangs head on table*

Thanks a lot.
 

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