When did these math branches reach their peak of development?

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The discussion revolves around the development and current status of various branches of mathematics, including abstract algebra, set theory, probability and statistics, differential equations, calculus and analysis, and Fourier analysis. Participants explore whether these fields have ceased to develop or if they continue to evolve with new theories and methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that most of the mentioned branches of mathematics have not stopped developing, with the exception of set theory, which is suggested to be less active.
  • Others argue that set theory remains an active area of research, though it may not be as popular as other fields.
  • A participant requests examples of new theories or methods introduced in the last decade, emphasizing a distinction between advanced topics and foundational changes.
  • Concerns are raised about whether studying older texts, such as those from the 1960s, means engaging with outdated or invalid material, given the ongoing research in these areas.
  • Some participants express that mathematics, being a deductive science, retains the validity of older theories, suggesting that foundational truths remain unchanged despite new developments.
  • There is a discussion about the quality of older versus newer texts, with some participants suggesting that older texts may prioritize rigor more effectively than newer ones.
  • One participant notes that while newer texts may cover recent discoveries, this is less critical at the undergraduate level.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether certain branches of mathematics have ceased to develop. There are competing views regarding the activity level of set theory and the relevance of older mathematical texts in light of ongoing research.

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The discussion highlights the uncertainty surrounding the evolution of mathematical theories and the implications for educational materials. There are unresolved questions about the impact of recent research on foundational concepts and the relevance of older texts.

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Since when each of the following math branches stopped developing, so there have been no new established theories and topics added?

Abstract algebra

Set theory

Probability and statistics

Differential equations

Calculus and analysis

Fourier analysis
 
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Those haven't stopped developing at all, except maybe set theory. Set theory isn't very active. I'm not sure exactly when that happened.
 
Could you please give me an example where a new theory/method has been added since the past 10 year for one area? And I don't mean advanced/research active topics...
Maybe my questions was not clear. What I want to know if anything changed with new theories that replaced old ones, generalization, ...etc.
 
homeomorphic said:
Those haven't stopped developing at all, except maybe set theory. Set theory isn't very active. I'm not sure exactly when that happened.

Uuuhm, set theory is still very active... It might not be as popular, but there is still quite some research in it.
 
Yup they are active research areas, but do they rule out any theories we studied 10 years ago? In other words, if I'm studying from a math book dated in 60s, am I studying something outdated and invalid?
Are these research topics taught and listed in undergraduate syllabus?
 
Yup they are active research areas, but do they rule out any theories we studied 10 years ago? In other words, if I'm studying from a math book dated in 60s, am I studying something outdated and invalid?

Is that even possible? As I understand it, mathematics is built up successively using deductive arguments that must necessarily be true. I freely admit that I don't know, but it wouldn't make sense to me if a "proof" were suddenly found to be incorrect.
 
I freely admit that I don't know, but it wouldn't make sense to me if a "proof" were suddenly found to be incorrect.

Exactly that's what I mean, whether recent researches ruled out any previous theories, and then courses and texts have to be updated accordingly.

I know everything is an active research area and can develop, and not only applicable to math.

But let me reword my question a bit.

If I'm studying ODEs from a text that dates back to 1960s, and another student is studying the same subject ODEs from a different new text say 2011. And both are studying at the same level, say undergraduate. How this person knowledge will be different than mine in this subject?
 
dijkarte said:
Exactly that's what I mean, whether recent researches ruled out any previous theories, and then courses and texts have to be updated accordingly.

I know everything is an active research area and can develop, and not only applicable to math.

But let me reword my question a bit.

If I'm studying ODEs from a text that dates back to 1960s, and another student is studying the same subject ODEs from a different new text say 2011. And both are studying at the same level, say undergraduate. How this person knowledge will be different than mine in this subject?

It all depends on the topic at hand, but I don't think your knowledge will be very different. The texts will be different however, but this won't matter much.

My experience is actually that older texts are actually better (not always of course). Old texts usually care only about rigor. New texts are often dumbed down.

Here are a random example of 5 texts that I have:

Spivak - Calculus: 1967
Kelley - Topology: 1955
Rudin - Principles of mathematical analysis - 1953
Artin - Algebra - 1991
Arnold - Ordinary differential equations - 1978

These texts are all considered top notch and they are all (with maybe the exception of Artin) quite old.

The quality of a text has very little to do with how old the text is. Old texts can be good, or they can be bad. So don't look at the age very much when choosing a text.

Sometimes, you do need newer texts however. For example, if you want material on recently discovered things. But at undergraduate level, or beginning graduate level, this won't be an issue.
 
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In other words, if I'm studying from a math book dated in 60s, am I studying something outdated and invalid?

Mathematics is a deductive science. Everything that was true 60 years ago is still true today.
 
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Uuuhm, set theory is still very active... It might not be as popular, but there is still quite some research in it.

Okay, but it is a fairly small area, I would say. I don't know of any math professors who work on set theory, but then, I'm fairly out of touch with that stuff.
 

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