When does the collision occur and at what height?

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving the collision of a ball in free fall and an arrow shot upwards. The ball starts at a height of 38 meters with zero initial velocity, while the arrow is launched with an initial velocity of 25 m/s. The participants derive equations of motion for both objects, considering two scenarios: one without air resistance and another with a constant drag force of 2.2 m. The quadratic equation is utilized to determine the time of collision and the height at which it occurs, emphasizing the importance of including drag forces in calculations.

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Homework Statement


a ball makes a free-fall with zero initial
velocity and an arrow with 25 m/s initial velocity is thrown to shoot
this ball at the same time. The ball is initially h=38 m higher than the
arrow.
a) Assume no drag force then how long after does this collision occur?
At what height below ball’s initial position does this collision occur?
b) Assume a constant air drag force at any time instant, which is equal
to Drag Force= 2.2 m where m is the mass of object. For this case,
repeat part a). Take g=9.8 m/s2 for both parts of this and other
questions.



Homework Equations



m.g-2,2m=m.a
h=vo.t+1/2gt^2

The Attempt at a Solution


problem is in b part, i solved a.
mg-2,2m=m.a
a=7,6
h=1/2at^2 =3,8t^2

38-3,8t^2= 25.t -1/2.9,8.t^2
there is an quadratic equation now and i think i should have used another formula, I'm not sure. I appreciate your help :)
 

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The quadratic is OK but you forgot to include the air resistance drag force on the arrow.
 
i couldn't decide whether or not to include drag force on the arrow.because, in the question it says "Drag Force= 2.2 m where m is the mass of object" there is no information about the arrow
 
Balls and arrows are both objects, as I see it..
 
ok i tried that one too but i still have quadratic. how can i find t?
 
Use quadratic equation, you know, if at^2 +bt + c = 0, then t = [-b +/- sq rt (b^2- 4ac)]/2a?
 

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