When Does the Function f(x) Concave Downward?

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The discussion revolves around determining the intervals where the function f(x) is concave downward, based on its second derivative derived from f'(x) = 1/(3+7x). Participants explore the implications of differentiating and integrating this function.

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  • Participants discuss differentiating f'(x) to find f''(x) and analyze conditions for concavity. There are attempts to integrate f'(x) to derive f(x) and questions about the validity of different interpretations regarding the intervals of concavity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants presenting different interpretations of the concavity intervals. Some guidance is offered regarding the integration process and the implications of absolute values, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interval.

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Participants note the importance of the domain of f(x) and the conditions under which the logarithmic function is defined, raising questions about the implications of these constraints on the concavity analysis.

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Given f'(x) = 1/(3+7x).
Find the interval where the graph of f(x) concaves downward.

First, I differentiate f'(x)= 1/(3+7x) to get f''(x) = -7/(3+7x)^2. So, for the graph to be concave downward, I put f''(x) = -7/(3+7x)^2<0, so 7/(3+7x)^2>0

(3+7x)^2 is always more or equal 0. Then, I exclude -3/7. Therefore, my final answer is that the graph of f(x) concaves downward on interval (-infinity, -3/7) union (-3/7, infinity).

But then again, if we integrate f'(x) = 1/(3+7x) to obtain f(x), we would obtain f(x) = [In (3+7x)]/7 + c.

Therefore, the interval now would be (-3/7, infinity), since the domain of the graph f(x) = [In (3+7x)]/7 is (-3/7, infinity).

But then again, we can integrate f'(x) = 1/(3+7x) to get f(x) = [In (3+7x)]/7, but this time, the term 3+7x is in the modulus form. By this new equation, we can conclude that the graph concave downward on (-infinity, -3/7) union (-3/7, infinity).

Hm... Which solution is the correct one ?
 
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lkh1986 said:
...But then again, we can integrate f'(x) = 1/(3+7x) to get f(x) = [In (3+7x)]/7, but this time, the term 3+7x is in the modulus form. By this new equation, we can conclude that the graph concave downward on (-infinity, -3/7) union (-3/7, infinity).

Hm... Which solution is the correct one ?

Remember that f(x) = lnx is defined for x > 0.
 
[tex]\int \frac{1}{x}dx = \ln(|x|)[/tex]

so it would be defined for x less than zero

EDIT: My absolute value bars don't seem to be coming through... :(
 
Office_Shredder said:
[tex]\int \frac{1}{x}dx = \ln(|x|)[/tex]

so it would be defined for x less than zero. (

Oh, yeah, then if I apply this formula I'll get the answer for the interval is (-infinity,-3/7) union (-3/7, infinity), right?
 
That looks right to me.

Damnit! Now the absolute value bars are showing up... I swear, I'm going crazy or something
 

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