When was the first computer bug discovered?

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The discussion centers around users sharing their first experiences with computers, highlighting a wide range of early models and personal anecdotes. Many participants recall their initial encounters with iconic machines like the Deskpro 386, Commodore 64, and Apple IIe, often reminiscing about the limitations and capabilities of these devices. The conversation reveals a nostalgic appreciation for the evolution of technology, with mentions of early programming languages, hardware upgrades, and the challenges of using older systems. Participants reflect on the excitement of owning their first computers, the learning experiences they provided, and the significant advancements in computing power and functionality over the decades. The thread also touches on the cultural significance of these early computers, illustrating how they shaped users' interests and careers in technology.
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DS2C said:
Had one of the mice with the ball in it...
I had a ball with a mouse in it... that way, I could just use gerbil verbal commands... . :redface:Trackball...
 
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phinds said:
I can remember things like my excitement when I got my very own hard drive, 10 megs.
And they were quite expensive at the time, somewhere around $5000, based on my memory of ads in computer magazines back then (~1982). I didn't get a hard drive until my 4th computer, a PC clone with a 386 CPU around 1987 or so. It came with a whopping 30 MB HD that I thought I would never fill up. About a year later, I upgraded to a 120MB drive.
 
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  • #33
DS2C said:
Everyone in here is very old LOL.
You betcha, grasshopper! Pre-baby boom, for myself.
 
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  • #34
The first computer I ever worked with was an IBM 1130 at my undergraduate alma mater, c. 1972. FORTRAN IV programs and data input were on punched cards, and output was via a line printer.

The first personal computer that I used was Apple's "Fat Mac" (the 512K version of the original 128K Mac), which came with my office at the college where I ended up teaching, in 1985.

A couple of years later I splurged on its successor, a Mac SE with a whopping 1 MB of memory and two floppy-disk drives, for use at home.
 
  • #35
jedishrfu said:
Did you hit the famous pentium bug?

Nope.
 
  • #36
phinds said:
My first computer didn't have a name...
Mine had a name, but... it most likely wouldn't get past the auto-censor... . :oops:

Lol... sometimes it had several names !
 
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  • #37
jtbell said:
The first computer I ever worked with was an IBM 1130 at my undergraduate alma mater, c. 1972. FORTRAN IV programs and data input were on punched cards, and output was via a line printer.
Something like that for me, as well. Probably an IBM of some kind. I took a programming class in which we used PL/C, a subset of the PL/1 programming language. Same deal with the punch cards and 17" wide fan-fold paper for output.
 
  • #38
I'm starting to feel old.
My first computer was a ZX Spectrum with 48 KiB of memory, which I wrangled from my parents.
(After I was enamored by a ZX81 with 1 KiB that I could only access in a store.)
And the first computer I bought myself was a 286 AT computer (around 1986), which was replaced every 2-3 years by a newer model (as long as Moore's Law was still in effect).
To be honest, I felt cheated by the lack of features in PC's that my ZX Spectrum used to offer. ;)
Oh, and I do recall that in high school a particular teacher was trying to understand computers, and he felt kind of superior since he was able to type blind, while I couldn't (yet!). ;)
 
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Mark44 said:
And they were quite expensive at the time, somewhere around $5000, based on my memory of ads in computer magazines back then (~1982). I didn't get a hard drive until my 4th computer, a PC clone with a 386 CPU around 1987 or so. It came with a whopping 30 MB HD that I thought I would never fill up. About a year later, I upgraded to a 120MB drive.
I don't remember what I paid, but I'm sure it was nowhere near $5K. Maybe they had been out for a while when I got one. As I recall it was somewhere around 1980.
 
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phinds said:
I don't remember what I paid, but I'm sure it was nowhere near $5K. Maybe they had been out for a while when I got one.
In 1991 I paid about $3.5K just for a monitor. That was a NEC 6FG with a 21 inch diagonal, which was the best monitor one could get at that time.
My boss didn't want to pay for it, so I bought one myself.
Afterwards, my boss kept bringing in people to look at that monitor, after which the company bought a whole lot of the exact same monitors to satisfy the business needs. :)
 
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First computer I ever owned was a TRS-80 pocket computer. The first one I ever used(in a high school programming class) was "Valentine", it was a Hewlett-Packard 9830-A, with 4Kb of memory, a 32 character LED display, and a built-in tape drive. It had the optional thermal printer.
Before the day of microprocessor chips, it used 7400-series gates, shift-registers and decoders for its logic boards.
 
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  • #42
Janus said:
First computer I ever owned was a TRS-80 pocket computer. The first one I ever used(in a high school programming class) was "Valentine", it was a Hewlett-Packard 9830-A, with 4Kb of memory, a 32 character LED display, and a built-in tape drive. It had the optional thermal printer.
Before the day of microprocessor chips, it used 7400-series gates, shift-registers and decoders for its logic boards.
And what did you use it for?
 
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Janus said:
First computer I ever owned was a TRS-80 pocket computer. The first one I ever used(in a high school programming class) was "Valentine", it was a Hewlett-Packard 9830-A, with 4Kb of memory, a 32 character LED display, and a built-in tape drive. It had the optional thermal printer.
Before the day of microprocessor chips, it used 7400-series gates, shift-registers and decoders for its logic boards.

Years later, when the school was holding a garage sale, I could've bought it for a cheap price. But it would have just been for sentiment's sake, and it probably just ended up gathering dust in the attic.
 
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Janus said:
Years later, when the school was holding a garage sale, I could've bought it for a cheap price. But it would have just been for sentiment's sake, and it probably just ended up gathering dust in the attic.
I still have my very first ZX Spectrum. The only computer I've ever kept.
And yes, it has been collecting dust for about 35 years now, but as yet I haven't been able to throw it out. :frown:
 
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  • #45
I like Serena said:
And what did you use it for?
which one. the TRS-80 or "Valentine". The TRS-80 wasn't much more than a toy. You could write a few simple BASIC programs for it, but that was about it.
Valentine was used to teach programming In BASIC, Though I do remember that the instructor also used it for keeping sports statistics for some of the School's teams.
 
  • #46
Janus said:
which one. the TRS-80 or "Valentine". The TRS-80 wasn't much more than a toy. You could write a few simple BASIC programs for it, but that was about it.
Valentine was used to teach programming In BASIC, Though I do remember that the instructor also used it for keeping sports statistics for some of the School's teams.
The TRS-80 came after the ZX81, and on a ZX81 I could program Space Invaders (just within 1 KiB!)
I could choose to either track high scores or add a special bomb, but not both, since then I'd run out of memory.
In high school we had a TRS-80 which was nice, but nowhere near as much fun!
 
  • #47
My parents: The IBM PC. I was in junior high I think: it cost $3500 in 1988 dollars, including the not-standard 20MB "hard card" hard drive and all-you'll-ever-need 640k ram card upgrade. The first I owned myself was in 1995, a Zenith PC clone requisitioned by the Naval Academy. It had a 100mhz 486 processor and 400ish MB hard drive.
 
  • #48
I suppose you could say I began with a 'Sinclair Scientific' calculator. I replaced that battery-chomper with a rechargeable TI-57, shoe-horned my 'complex' 3D astronomy calculations into its 50 steps. The display was so 'beady eyed', and the keypad so tiny, I made a lot of mistakes. Late in 1979, I got an Apple ][ Europlus, the very first in UK with FP Applesoft in ROM. A month later, I had to add eight RAM chips to take it up to 48 kb, then totally maxed it out with math, graphics and my tape-loaded databases of nearby and background stars. Yes, my TV screen really was 'full of stars' !
Refreshing the 'orrery' view could take 1~~5 minutes for the smaller database, or fifteen minutes for the larger, but you could plot a route around the neighbours...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Software_Gazette
 
  • #49
I first learned FORTRAN on an IBM 1620, and machine language on a GE 4020.

My first home computer was a Commodore Pet followed by an Apple 2 Plus, but I used to sneak home an ASR33 teletype before that.

I recall the delight when the Commodore Pet said HELLO after power up without me needing to punch in a bootstrap program first.

But I think the most amazing computer I ever bought (for my sister) was a Texas Instruments Speak and Spell. That was a real breakthrough machine. If they still sold them today, I would buy one for my great granddaughter.
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  • #50
Toshiba laptop. Pretty modern, but all I can remember. :smile:
 
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  • #51
Acorn Electron. It was a cut down version of the BBC Model B microcomputer, the spiritual ancestor of the Raspberry Pi, in that it was a machine designed with exploring development in mind. It had a built in Basic interpreter, eight colour graphics, and a sound generator capable enough that you could write a speech synthesiser for it.

I used it to toy with programming, although it wasn't until much later that I got good at it. I also played games, notably Frenzy and Elite.

Does anybody else remember Spectrum vs BBC religious disagreements? As an Acorn/BBC owner, I believe I'm still obligated to sneer at the poor benighted Spectrum owners on this thread. BBCs are just better, right, and I'll fight you behind the bike sheds if you say otherwise. (I don't remember anyone actually coming to blows over it, but that was about the level of debate...)
 
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  • #52
anorlunda said:
sneak home an ASR33 teletype
Guard at the gatehouse: "Hey fella, whaddya got there under your coat?"

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  • #53
Arguably, a TI-30 calculator, if only because it needed a 9V battery, and my Pickett slide rule didn't. The first 'real' computer was a Commodore 64, but I'd tried three or four Timex Sinclair 1000s (none of which worked properly out of the box) after spending a companionable Christmas Eve with a friend and his girlfriend getting one programmed for her younger brother. Next was a PC-XT clone ...
 
  • #54
My very first was A programmable 11k char code limit pocket calculator and a commodore 64 with math cardtridge.

But i remeber them as toys. I used them to exactly calculate pH in complex multi-acid-base systems and i recall it took my commodore a ridicilous 5 minutes with netwon raphson.

I consider my first "real computer" to be an 12.5Mhz 286 with 20 mb hd and hercules monochrome grahpics. I used that for a lot of numerical simulations in turbo pascal. It was awesome! and also had a 2400bps modem :)

/Fredrik
 
  • #55
My first computer was a TI-99/4A. Still have fond memories of it, and was happy to find an emulator for it about a year ago.

First computer that I paid for myself was a 386SX, assembled by a small local shop. I couldn't afford a full 386, but it did have a 387SX math coprocessor :smile:
 
  • #56
How many of you people can go out to your shop or store room and pull out your first computers ? (I can:rolleyes: ) mine was an 8088, then in 1984 a 286 running windows 3.0 .
If my memory is right the 8088 ran at a speed of 4.75 Mhz :smile:

Edit: The years didn't seem quite right, I checked and it must have been 2.0, the memory gets fuzzy after that many years ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2.0
 
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  • #57
TRS80 model 1. I later added the expansion interface which gave me 16k of ram. I then added the 360k floppy drive for $500 and then the line printer for $1000 (the line printer was used).
 
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IBM PS/2 Model 30 286
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I like Serena said:
The TRS-80 came after the ZX81, and on a ZX81 I could program Space Invaders (just within 1 KiB!)
I could choose to either track high scores or add a special bomb, but not both, since then I'd run out of memory.
In high school we had a TRS-80 which was nice, but nowhere near as much fun!
The "pocket computer" version I had was limited to a 1 line, 25 character display, unlike your ZX81 which output to a CRT screen. You needed to buy an additional interface to store your programs on tape or to print (on a strip of paper that was like that from an adding machine). At the time, just getting the "computer" involved spending more than I should have splurged on, so getting the extras that would have made it a bit more useful was not in the cards.
I was able to pick up a regular TRS-80 and monitor at the same garage sale where I saw Valentine, and for 25$
 
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Janus said:
The "pocket computer" version I had was limited to a 1 line, 25 character display, unlike your ZX81 which output to a CRT screen. You needed to buy an additional interface to store your programs on tape or to print (on a strip of paper that was like that from an adding machine). At the time, just getting the "computer" involved spending more than I should have splurged on, so getting the extras that would have made it a bit more useful was not in the cards.
I was able to pick up a regular TRS-80 and monitor at the same garage sale where I saw Valentine, and for 25$

I seem to recall that the TRS-80 at least had significantly more memory than the 1 KiB the ZX81 had.
That allowed for some 'real' programs to be written, which were more than about 10 lines of BASIC code with peeks and pokes before running out of memory.
Still, without the CRT display, that was indeed quite a different ball game.
 

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