Where Can a Third Charge Be Placed to Cancel Out the Electrostatic Force on q_2?

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The discussion focuses on determining the location of a third charge, q_3 = +4.0 * 10^(-6) C, that would cancel out the electrostatic force on q_2 = -4.0 * 10^(-6) C. The initial calculations using Coulomb's law and the distance formula resulted in an attractive force of 25 N between q_1 and q_2. Participants emphasized the importance of correctly interpreting the problem, noting that the goal is to find a position where the net force on q_2 is zero, not on q_3. The correct approach involves balancing the forces exerted by q_1 and q_3 on q_2.

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I need a bit of help with two problems. I've just started using latex, so bear with me if the equations are a bit funky.

The charges and coordinates of two charged particles held fized in the xy plane are q_1 = +3.0 * 10^(-6) C and (0.035, 0.005) and q_2 = -4.0 * 10^(-6) C and (-0.02, 0.015). All coordinates are given in meters. A.) Find the magnitude and direction of the electrostatic force on q_2.

I used the distance formula to find the distance between the two coordinates and came up with d=0.065 m. Then I used Coulomb's law:

F = \frac{q_1 q_2 }{4 \pi e d^2}

I calculated this and got F = 25 N. I knew that the force was attractive, since the two particles are opposite in sign.

B. Where could you locate a third charge q_3 = +4.0 * 10^(-6) C such that the net electrostatic force on q_2 is zero?

My work:

\frac{(4 * 10^-6 C)^2}{4 \pi e d_2^2} = 25 N

d_2 = 0.075 m

I wasn't quite sure about how to proceed. At any rate I found the slope:

m = \frac{y_2 - y_1}{x_2 - x_1} = -0.18

Next I used the equation of a line:

y - 0.005 = -0.18(x - 0.035)

y = -0.18(x) + 0.011

And then the distance formula again:

d_2^2 = 0.0056 = (-0.02 - x)^2 + (0.015 - y)^2

0.0056 = (-0.02 - x)^2 + (0.015 - 0.011 + 0.18x)^2

0.005184 = 1.0324 x^2 + 0.04144 x

I tried using that one formula at this point (I don't remember what it's called...the one to solve equations involving Ax^2 + Bx + C = 0) and came up with complex numbers for answers! What did I do wrong? I know I probably messed up the actual numbers some...I only was writing 2 significant figures in the beginning in my calcs, and I was using 4 by the end :blushing:

~Silimay~
 
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its simpler than you think it is

first of all why did you use the slope of a line?!

secondlythe charget o be placed in positive yes? So don't you think there would be a point in between(or to the side) of the charges that the negative charge would attract with the ssame for the postiive repels with??

then you'll have a diagram like this-

|-------------x--------------------|---------x-0.065----------------|
the above system is like so because the x must go away when you add x and x-0.065.
-4microC ----------------------New charge------------------+3microC
to calculate the point where the force is zero

Force (from 4 microC on new charge) = Force (from +3microC on new charge) because push and pull is equal here thus no NET force.
now that you found the distance draw a trangle and try and see how this distnace you computed above. What does the distance represent?

your triangle should be right angle triangle (for simplciity) Try and figure out how you plug the co-ordinates in for the vertices of the right angle triangle and THEN use the distance formula to compute the point (assume it is x,y and then solve)
 
the above post is absolutely definitely positively deadly unquestoinably don'tASKmeWAYly wrong, ignore it.. silimay, your method is right.. check your algebra and arithimetics...
 
silimay said:
came up with complex numbers for answers
i don't see any reason you will come up with a complex number.. it is real.. rearrange your equation like this

0= 1.0324 x^2 + 0.04144 x -0.005184

and do it again,
 
vincentchan said:
the above post is absolutely definitely positively deadly unquestoinably don'tASKmeWAYly wrong, ignore it.. silimay, your method is right.. check your algebra and arithimetics...
i'm going to ask anyway

WHYDOESNTITWORK!
 
read the question part B again.. it was asking you how could make the electric force on q2 equal to zero.. what you was doing is making the force on q3 equal to zero.. I am pretty sure you know how to do this problem.. you just didn't read it carefully...
 

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