Where Did Bill Go Wrong? Tips for Correctly Drawing Velocity vs. Time Graphs

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The discussion revolves around a physics lab tutorial question concerning the correct drawing of velocity vs. time graphs. The original poster describes a scenario where a student, Bill, has accurately represented distance and acceleration graphs but has drawn an incorrect velocity vs. time graph. Participants are exploring the reasons behind Bill's mistake and discussing how he might avoid similar errors in the future.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the representation of the velocity graph, particularly the implications of acceleration and constant velocity. They discuss the potential confusion between acceleration and velocity graphs and suggest that Bill may have misunderstood the relationship between these concepts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of Bill's mistake and offering advice on how to improve his understanding of the concepts involved. There is a recognition of the need for clarity between acceleration and velocity, and some participants suggest that Bill should take more time to think through his answers.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference a specific worksheet for context, indicating that the problem is part of a structured homework assignment. There is an acknowledgment of the lack of explicit information regarding Bill's thought process, which may have contributed to his error.

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i am trying to do my physics lab tutorial homework and i am confused about a question that asks..

bill got his distance and acceleration graph right but drew the incorrect velocity vs. time graph shown here.

velocity
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| / | |\
| / | | \
|_ /__|______ |__\___>
time

((sorry for my crappy triangles lol))

1why.do you think bill made this mistake? what advice would you give him to help him avoid that mistake in the future? how could bill have realized that its wrong?

this is the link of the worksheet its on page 3 (HW2-3) question C.
http://panda.unm.edu/Courses/Saul/Physics1/Tutorials/02_V_and_A_Graph_Tutorial_HW.pdf
 
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I'd suggest to Bill to use a better graphing program o.O

Seriously though :P What is the graph representing?
 
lol sorry it didnt work out to well.. its suppose to be 2 triangles. i posted the link on the post so you can see the actual problem its on page 3.
 
Ok that is much better :) Completely different than what I had originally imagined it, lol.

Ok, so the issue is, the ball is accelerating as it rolls down ramp A, once it reaches the bottom and begins horizontally rolling, its velocity is the same, not 0. Meaning the time between ramp A and ramp B, the velocity doesn't change, but the velocity isn't 0 either, or it would never get to ramp B. So the flat horizontal line should not be along the x axis, but rather at the peak velocity, virtually connecting your two slopped lines.

If you knew that and just looking for the answers of why bill made this mistake, there are many, and all just as relevant since no other information is given. But you could theorize that he assumed he confused the acceleration and velocity graphs, so since the ball is moving at a constant velocity, its acceleration is 0. I would advise Bill to better understand the differences between acceleration and velocity? Or maybe tell him to take more time in answering questions and think it through, since he got the above two graphs correct?

Opinion questions are the best, you could say it was because he was on crack and advise him to quit drugs.
 
:biggrin: you are the best! THANKS! LOL
 

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