Where Did the Mysterious '6' Come From in F24 Calculation?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of a force, specifically F24, in a physics problem related to electrostatics. Participants are trying to understand the derivation of the term 6kq^2/L^2 and the reasoning behind the choice of charges involved in the calculation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are examining the mathematical steps leading to the expression for F24, particularly focusing on the origin of the factor 6 in the equation. There is also inquiry into the choice of charges q1 and q4 versus q3 and q4, and how this affects the calculation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the calculations and the reasoning behind the choice of forces, noting that the forces involved are equal in magnitude but opposite in direction. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants clarifying mathematical relationships and exploring different interpretations of the problem.

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There is a mention of the teacher's approach to the problem, which may imply specific instructional methods or assumptions that are not fully detailed in the discussion. Participants are also navigating potential confusion regarding the application of electrostatic principles in this context.

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Hi first post sorry if I didn't follow anyone specific rule. Me and my fiancee are stumped how my physics 2b teacher got 6kq^2/L^2 for F24. We understand that where r= L square root2/2 is squared so the result is L^2. But where in the heck did the 6 come from in 6kq^2.
 

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[tex](L\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2})^2=\frac{2L^2}{4}=L^2/2[/tex]

ehild
 
Yes. As ehild said in his post, the result of r^2 is (L^2)/2. So the 2 multiplies into the 3 on 3q and it becomes 6q^2 (pardon me for my lack of Tex).
 
Beautiful! Also why is it that she used q1 and q4 vs. q3 and q4. I realize it will produce the same answer.
 
Your teacher indicated q1-q4 and q3-q4 because they are two forces of the same magnitude/size pulling in opposite directions. Because these two forces are pulling in opposite directions, their net force cancel to 0.
However, your teacher also killed two birds with one stone because her equations following F14 = F34 not only indicated that the two forces canceled out, it also calculated F24 (as each of the three charges, q1,q2,q3 , provide the same force in different directions). Since F24 does not have any other force cancelling it out, it provides the only force that moves the q4 charge. And that force is 6kq^2/L^2, as you've indicated in your first post.
 

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