Where is the force coming from to compress the spring

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The problem involves a plank moving with uniform velocity to which a mass is connected by a spring. The original poster is trying to determine the work done by an external agent on the maximum compression of the spring, while questioning the source of the force required for compression given the plank's constant velocity.

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  • Assumption checking, Problem interpretation, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the plank's motion and the role of friction, questioning how the mass behaves under these conditions. They explore what happens to the mass if the spring is not present and consider the assumptions made in the problem statement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is actively exploring the assumptions and clarity of the problem statement, particularly regarding the effects of friction and the initial conditions of the system. Participants are engaging with the conceptual aspects of the problem without reaching a consensus on the specifics of the work done by the spring.

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There is a noted lack of clarity in the problem statement regarding friction and the initial state of the system, which participants are addressing as they seek to understand the scenario better.

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Homework Statement



Given a plank is moved with uniform velocity v. To which a mass is connected by a spring of force constant k. What is work done by the external agent on the maximum compression of the spring

Homework Equations


Work done by spring=0.5*k*x2
Work-energy theorem: total work done =change in kinetic energy

The Attempt at a Solution


in order to compress a spring there has to be a force.but since it is given plank is moving with uniform velocity.where is the force coming from?
Since I couldn't figure or understand that I couldn't proceed further.
 

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The screenshot makes it a bit clearer. The "plank" is moved with constant velocity--but what about the mass, m? It seems we have to neglect friction.
 
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John Park said:
The screenshot makes it a bit clearer. The "plank" is moved with constant velocity--but what about the mass, m? It seems we have to neglect friction.
Then also why the mass moves...?
 
What would happen to the mass if there was no spring, and no friction, and the plank suddenly started moving at velocity v0?
 
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John Park said:
plank suddenly started moving
This is the necessary assumption, not made clear in the question.
 
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This is the necessary assumption, not made clear in the question.

It's not a terribly well written question--nothing about friction, for one thing--but I don't think anything else makes sense.
 
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John Park said:
It's not a terribly well written question--nothing about friction, for one thing--but I don't think anything else makes sense.
Ok then what is the work done by spring in this situation .is it negative or positive?
 
Is that the exact wording of the question?

There is no mention of it starting from rest?
 
Ok then what is the work done by spring in this situation .is it negative or positive?

Try to visualise what will happen if the whole system is at rest and then someone starts pulling the "plank". As I said, it might help if you start by imagining there's no spring and the mass is on a very slippery surface.

Also note that the question talks about "compression" of the spring.
 

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