Where to place fixed axis of rotating motor

  • Context: Undergrad 
  • Thread starter Thread starter ahmed11
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Axis Motor Rotating
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the mechanics of torque application in rotating motors, specifically in the context of designing a hand drill similar to an electric screwdriver. It establishes that torque is fundamentally defined as force multiplied by radius, emphasizing that a fixed frame is essential for effective torque application. The conversation highlights that while axial forces can generate torque through intermediate mechanisms, such as those found in automatic screwdrivers and watchmaker's drills, a lever arm is necessary for torque application. The conclusion is that without a fixed frame or lever arm, achieving effective torque is not feasible.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of torque mechanics and the formula (Torque = Force x Radius)
  • Familiarity with electric screwdriver design principles
  • Knowledge of intermediate mechanisms in torque generation
  • Basic concepts of axial force application in mechanical systems
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the design principles of automatic screwdrivers and their torque mechanisms
  • Explore the mechanics of Archimedean drills and their applications
  • Study the role of lever arms in torque application and mechanical advantage
  • Investigate alternative methods for torque generation without traditional lever arms
USEFUL FOR

Engineers, product designers, and hobbyists interested in mechanical design, particularly those focused on power tools and torque application mechanisms.

ahmed11
Messages
83
Reaction score
0
is there a fixed angle between the fixed axis of a motor to the torque applied opposite to the motor rotation?
an example is if i am using and electric screw driver to rotate a spiral screw in stable piece of wood on the floor, what should be my fixed frame if the screwdriver is I shaped and pointing down. how should i know my fixed frame and can my fixed frame be applied by weight of my hand on the screwdriver not in the opposite direction of rotation or it has to be applied by putting torque (weight) opposite to the rotation motion. I'm trying to design a hand drill like the screwdriver without a fixed frame, so i was wondering if it is possible. assume that the bit of the screwdriver is in contact with the wood( inside it) can i apply weight on top of the screwdriver to overcome the torque of the wood on the bit or it has to be applied with radius. i know that torque is force x radius but is there any other way to apply torque without radius?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
ahmed11 said:
know that torque is force x radius but is there any other way to apply torque without radius?
I there a way to make force x 0 not equal to 0 ?
 
An axial force can be used to generate a torque if there is an intermediate mechanism . The most common mechanism is the one used in so called 'automatic' screwdrivers where a nut is pushed along a long pitch helix . Many varieties of detail design .

screwdriver-1to3lg.jpg


A watchmakers drill uses the same principle . Sometimes called an Archimedean drill . Again many varieties of detail design .

44038.jpg
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: ahmed11
Nidum said:
An axial force can be used to generate a torque
You still must apply a torque to those tools, which you cannot do without a lever arm (as the OP wants to).
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K