Which Book Is Best for Learning Differential Geometry?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for books suitable for learning differential geometry, particularly for undergraduate mathematics students. Participants explore various texts that cover traditional topics such as surfaces, curvature, and geodesics, and consider the appropriateness of different approaches to the subject.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests book suggestions for differential geometry, specifying a list of topics they need to cover.
  • Another participant suggests Willmore's "An Introduction to Differential Geometry" for a classical approach, emphasizing its usefulness for traditional topics.
  • Some participants note the distinction between classical and modern approaches to differential geometry, with O'Neill's "Elementary Differential Geometry" representing the modern perspective.
  • A participant expresses dissatisfaction with their current course materials and seeks a book that provides elementary theory and numerous examples.
  • Do Carmo's text is mentioned as a good resource for classical differential geometry, appreciated for its beauty and intuitive training.
  • Erwin Kreyszig's books are discussed, with mixed opinions on their accessibility and depth, particularly regarding his engineering-focused texts versus more rigorous mathematics books.
  • Struik's "Lectures on Classical Differential Geometry" is praised for its coverage of required topics, and participants discuss whether it should be supplemented with Schaum's Outline for practice.
  • One participant mentions using Spivak's "Comprehensive Intro to Differential Geometry" in a graduate course, finding it straightforward so far.
  • Concerns are raised about the adequacy of Struik's book for practice, with suggestions that it may lack sufficient exercises compared to Schaum's series.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best book for learning differential geometry, with no clear consensus on a single text. Some favor classical approaches while others lean towards modern interpretations, indicating multiple competing views on the subject.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of aligning book choices with the specific course approach, noting that some texts may be more suitable for traditional topics while others delve into modern concepts. There is also mention of varying levels of difficulty and accessibility among the recommended texts.

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HI, am a newbie to differential geometry..Can anyone please suggest me a book suitable for Maths hons student...

Before posting read this out...

required topics-
one parameter family of surfaces, developables associated with a curve : polar and rectifying & osculating developables ,two parameter family of surfaces, curvillinear coordinates, curves on a surface, eulers theorem, dupin's theorem, surface of revolution, conjugate directions, conjugate systems, asymptotic lines,curvature and torsion, geodesics !
 
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Hello Abhilasha, I hope you Diff Geom course turns out well.

What you have listed looks like a list of traditional topics.

I say this because there are two approcahes to Diff Geom - the classical and the modern.

The Oxford University Book

an Introduction to Differential Geometry

by Willmore

Offers a good basis for the subject with lots of useful examples in what can be a rather dry academic subject.

He uses traditional differentials for the presentation.


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The modern approach is exemplified by

Elementary Differential Geometry

by ONeill

He launches straight into forms, the connection to topology and manifolds.

It is quite important that you find out which approach your course will be following before choosing a text as the wrong one will be more of a hinderance than a help.

I have underlined the two appropriate sentences to ask.

go well
 
Thanks even i hope the same but my professor and his book are useless and leave me helpless...My course in mainly theory centered ...I think its the classic one...that is why it appears too boring...

BTW my course mainly deals with use of derivatives(total and partial) merged along with some high school 3-D geometry concepts (like equation of plane, normal plane, tangent planes, dot and cross products etc)

I need a book with relevant elementary theory in the subject and a lots to examples to practice...That's it !


So Wilmore would be a perfect book ? What about Schaum's ? Should i take that up also ?
 
I think classical (traditional) differential geometry of surfaces in 3-dimensional space is a very beautiful subject; it is also a great arena for you to train your intuition in preparation for more abstract modern differential geometry of manifolds. The text I used was do Carmo's "https://www.amazon.com/dp/0132125897/?tag=pfamazon01-20".
 
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OnE thing please don't get me wrong ! I don't want to go into pretty much details...the topics i have mentioned comprise 98% of the syllabus ...these are the only topics that i will deal at undergraduate level and want to learn that much only which can earn me good marks ( but the college has recommended Erwin kreyszig's book as well...Do u think that's readable...another thing i have spivak's comprehensive intro into DG as well but hardly find that useful... seems like written mainly for engineering students...):-p

So please help me decide which one would let me conquer the topics without much pre-requistives of a decent chapter-wise study...i just want to study it topic wise:confused:


yenchin said:
intuition in preparation for more abstract modern differential geometry of manifolds. The text I used was do Carmo's "https://www.amazon.com/dp/0132125897/?tag=pfamazon01-20".

Studiot said:
Hello Abhilasha, I hope you Diff Geom course turns out well.

What you have listed looks like a list of traditional topics.

The Oxford University Book

an Introduction to Differential Geometry

by Willmore
 
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You did say honours mathematics.

Differential Geometry is generally a third level subject here.

As for Kreysig, he is an author with two faces.

He has written some highly accessible textbooks for engineers and scientists. The section on diff geom in 'Advanced Engineering Mathematics' is an excellent introduction.

But he is also a respected professor of Mathematics, author of some full blooded mathematics textbooks where he takes no prisoners.

His textbook 'Differential Geometry' is one such.
He makes extensive use of Tensor calculus and probably goes way beyond your requirements.

The smaller and simpler book by Struik

'Lectures on Classical Differential Geometry'

is probably about the level you seem to require.

One other book worth mentioning because she incorporates all approaches, classical modern differential forms and groups and the bridge of tensor calculus, is

Prakash

'Differential Geometry an Integrated approach'.

go well
 
I'm not exactly sure which is best, but I'm taking a grad-level diff geometry course at Berkeley right now and we're using Spivak's Comprehensive Intro to Diff Geometry. I've only read the first chapter, but it seems pretty straightforward.
 
Thnks Studiot "lectures on DG " by Struik is a gem indeed...This made all my searches fruitful...it has all the topics i needed in required length and depth...:P

Is the book enough or should i do the practice stuff along with Schaum's Outline- differential geometry ?
I mean should it be read simultaneously with some other book or it deserves an independent study ? :-)
 
Thnks Studiot "lectures on DG " by Struik is a gem indeed...This made all my searches fruitful...it has all the topics i needed in required length and depth...:P

Is the book enough or should i do the practice stuff along with Schaum's Outline- differential geometry ?
I mean should it be read simultaneously with some other book or it deserves an independent study ? :-)
 
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Is the book enough or should i do the practice stuff along with Schaum's Outline- differential geometry ?
I mean should it be read simultaneously with some other book or it deserves an independent study ? :-)

How long is a piece of string?

If Struik covers your course then fine. But it is too small to have many practice examples ( the exercises are more further theory teaching eg "find the geodesics of the plane by integrating 2.2 in polar coordinates") than real uses.
Examples are what Schaum's series does well but their explanation of theory is rather short.
 

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