Which energy is easier to catch? LED or laser

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparative efficiency of energy collection from LEDs versus lasers when both are directed into an optical cavity. Participants explore the implications of beam divergence, spectral content, and resonant modes on energy capture.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the differences between LEDs and lasers, highlighting beam divergence and spectral content, and questions which would be more effective for energy collection in a resonator with an aperture.
  • Another participant inquires about the properties of the optical cavity that influence energy collection.
  • It is suggested that the LED's broader frequency range might allow for more energy delivery if some of its frequencies align with the resonant frequencies of the cavity.
  • A participant raises a question about the significance of intensity emitted at each frequency, comparing the benefits of a narrow frequency range versus a broader one with lower intensity.
  • One participant concludes that the effectiveness of energy collection may depend on the attenuation of each mode and suggests that more modes could lead to higher energy capture, while also questioning the ease of getting energy into the cavity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the factors that influence energy collection efficiency, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss assumptions regarding beam divergence, spectral content, and resonant modes, but there are unresolved aspects regarding the specific conditions under which energy collection would be optimized.

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Hello Forum,

I understand the difference between LEDs and lasers: both operate at optical frequencies, but the LEd has a larger beam divergence and a higher spectral content, less temporal coherence...

Assuming we are able create the same beam divergence for a laser as for a LED (using lenses), and we want to collect energy within a box, a resonator that has an aperture, which one will be better? Which one will allow most of the energy to enter the box in the easier way?

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What do you think? What are the properties of the optical cavity that determine the amount of energy collected?
 
Well, a cavity has its resonant modes. So technically, if the LED, which has more frequencies, has some frequencies that correspond to the resonant frequencies of the cavity maybe more energy is delivered by the LED inside the cavity...
 
Have you considered the intensity emitted in each frequency? What's better, 90% of the light being within a narrow range of frequencies corrosponding to a mode of the cavity, or a much smaller percentage in the same mode and another small percentage in another mode?
 
Well, it seems that if the LED and the laser have the same power, it depends on the attenuation that each mode suffers...more modes more likely to have more energy.
without attenuation it seems it would not matter...
What would matter is which way is easier to get the energy inside the cavity...
 

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