Which Friction Coefficient Applies to a Skidding Car on Ice?

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The discussion revolves around a homework question regarding the appropriate friction coefficient to use for a car skidding on ice. Participants are exploring the concepts of static and kinetic friction in the context of a car's motion on an icy surface.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether to use the coefficient of static or kinetic friction, given that the car is skidding. There is a discussion about the implications of the question's wording and the nature of friction involved in the scenario.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the distinction between static and kinetic friction, suggesting that kinetic friction is applicable since the car is sliding. Others are still seeking clarification on the calculation of frictional forces and the conditions under which different coefficients apply.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication that the question may be ambiguous, as some participants note that friction exists regardless of the ice, which raises further questions about the assumptions made in the problem.

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I have this question on my homework, but I think maybe all the answers are wrong. I figure it should be C since the road is icy, but shouldn't I be using the coefficient of static friction instead of kinetic? any help is appreciated. thanks.


As a car skids with its wheels locked trying to stop on a road
covered with ice and snow,
the force of friction between the icy road and the tires will
usually be: (Please note that
"normal" and "perpendicular" have the same meaning)

a. greater than the normal force of the road times the coefficient
of static friction
b. equal to the normal force of the road times the coefficient of
static friction
c. less than the normal force of the road times the coefficient of
kinetic friction
d. greater than the normal force of the road times the coefficient
of kinetic friction
e. equal to the normal force of the road times the coefficient of
kinetic friction.
 
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thje way the question is worded means there is friction between the tires and the icy road regardless of the ice

how do you calculate force of friction?? Is there any OTHER way that you know of?
 
Let's see... the car is sliding along the ice, so it's actually moving. Which friction would you use if an object is sliding a surface?
 
This is a case of kinetic friction.
The static friction only applies to a rotating wheel (the friction between the wheel and the road allow the wheel to rotate); since it is only skidding, kinetic friction is the right one.
 

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