Which Intermolecular Forces Affect These Organic Compounds?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying the intermolecular forces that affect specific organic compounds, focusing on London dispersion forces, dipole-dipole interactions, and hydrogen bonding. The context is primarily homework-related, with participants exploring how these forces influence the physical and chemical properties of the compounds listed.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to analyze compounds with more than two different elements and suggests drawing Lewis structures and considering electronegativities.
  • Another participant proposes that understanding the characteristics of the compounds can help determine which intermolecular forces are significant.
  • It is suggested that all three compounds may exhibit hydrogen bonding due to the presence of hydrogen bonded to oxygen.
  • There is a belief that all compounds would exhibit London dispersion forces, but there is a question about what specifically constitutes dipole-dipole interactions.
  • A participant defines London forces as those that hold covalent molecules together, dipole-dipole as holding polar covalent molecules together, and hydrogen bonding as occurring between electropositive hydrogen and electronegative atoms like oxygen, chlorine, fluorine, or nitrogen.
  • One participant indicates they are still struggling with the question and seeks further assistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the presence of London forces and hydrogen bonding in the discussed compounds, but there is uncertainty regarding the specifics of dipole-dipole interactions and how to analyze the compounds effectively. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple viewpoints expressed.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the specific intermolecular forces for each compound, and there are limitations in their understanding of how to apply the concepts to more complex molecular structures.

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Homework Statement



All molecular compounds may have London, Dipole-Dipole, and hydrogen bonding intermolecular forces, affecting their physical and chemical properties. Indicate which intermolecular forces contribute to the attraction between molecules in each of the following classes of organic compounds.

a) CH3OCH
b)C6H5COOC2H5
c) CaCO3

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The Attempt at a Solution



I know how to do it for simple molecular formulas, but now I have molecular formulas with more than 2 different elements. How would I go about doing this? Would I need to draw out the lewis structure and do the electronegativies between the molecules that are connected? Any help would be appreciated, I do not want answers, just a kick in the right direction.
 
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I think you're on the right track; it might help to think about it more generally---what characteristics determine which intermolecule forces are important? Which of those characteristics do each of those compounds possess?
 
zhermes said:
I think you're on the right track; it might help to think about it more generally---what characteristics determine which intermolecule forces are important? Which of those characteristics do each of those compounds possess?

So for example all of those would have Hydrogen bonding because the H is chemically bonded to O in all three examples?

All would have weak london forces, I believe, what constitutes dipole-dipole?
 
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zhermes said:
what characteristics determine which intermolecule forces are important?
 
zhermes said:
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London forces = hold covalent molecules together
Dipole-dipole = Hold polar covalent molecules together
hydrogen bonding = formed between electropositive Hydrogen dipole and an electronegative dipole of O, CL, Fl, N
 
bump, still stuck on this question, any help appreciated
 

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