Which math course should I take (as a physics major)?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around selecting appropriate mathematics courses for a physics major entering their third year. The focus is on determining which courses would be most beneficial for theoretical physics, considering options such as Introduction to Analysis II, Functional Analysis, Introduction to the Calculus of Variations, and Algebra I.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Exploratory, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses certainty about taking Analysis II but is unsure about the other courses, seeking advice on their utility for theoretical physics.
  • Another participant suggests that all three of the first courses (Analysis II, Functional Analysis, Calculus of Variations) are reasonable choices, especially for those involved with quantum mechanics (QM).
  • A later reply indicates that Analysis II is a prerequisite for both Functional Analysis and Calculus of Variations, implying its importance.
  • One participant argues from an ideal theoretical standpoint that Analysis II may be "useless" compared to Functional Analysis and Calculus of Variations, yet acknowledges the necessity of taking it due to prerequisites.
  • Another participant mentions the possibility of waiving the prerequisite for Functional Analysis, which raises questions about course requirements.
  • There is a suggestion that taking Functional Analysis before graduation could open more opportunities in graduate school.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the relative importance of Analysis II compared to Functional Analysis and Calculus of Variations. While some see the necessity of Analysis II due to prerequisites, others question its value from a theoretical perspective. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best course selection.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of prerequisites for certain courses, which may influence course selection. The discussion also reflects varying opinions on the utility of specific courses in relation to theoretical physics.

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I am entering my third year as a physics major, I have space for around 2 math courses this term and I plan on taking 2 from these courses:

- Introduction to Analysis II
- Functional Analysis
- Introduction to the Calculus of Variations
- Algebra I

I am pretty sure I will take Analysis II. I'm confused about the others though. A graduating undergrad student recommended Calculus of Variations but I was leaning towards functional analysis. Which courses would be the most useful from a theoretical physics standpoint?
 
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Welcome to PF. :smile:

babylonsashes said:
- Algebra I
Is that a typo or incomplete course title?
 
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babylonsashes said:
I am entering my third year as a physics major, I have space for around 2 math courses this term and I plan on taking 2 from these courses:

- Introduction to Analysis II
- Functional Analysis
- Introduction to the Calculus of Variations
- Algebra I

I am pretty sure I will take Analysis II. I'm confused about the others though. A graduating undergrad student recommended Calculus of Variations but I was leaning towards functional analysis. Which courses would be the most useful from a theoretical physics standpoint?
The first 3 are all reasonable and you will need them sooner or later if you have contact with QM. However, Ana 2 can be viewed as a precondition for functional analysis and variation of calculus.
 
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berkeman said:
Welcome to PF. :smile:Is that a typo or incomplete course title?
Thank you!

It's the complete title. The "I" is a roman 1. Like the first course in abstract algebra.
 
fresh_42 said:
The first 3 are all reasonable and you will need them sooner or later if you have contact with QM. However, Ana 2 can be viewed as a precondition for functional analysis and variation of calculus.

Hmm, I think I will end up taking Analysis 2 and Calculus of Variations then. It has pre req of Analysis I and Intro to Differential Equations. Functional Analysis needs Analysis 2 but I was thinking that I would get it waived.

Thank you
 
babylonsashes said:
Functional Analysis needs Analysis 2 but I was thinking that I would get it waived.
Here is a brief walkthrough of the fundamentals of functional analysis. No substitution for a book or a course, but a collection of the basic definitions and theorems (2 parts):
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/hilbert-spaces-relatives/
 
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From an ideal theoretical standpoint, Analysis II (if it's just reals...) is "useless" compared to functional analysis and calculus of variations.

However, you said it's a pre-req for functional, so looks like you should take it. Def try to take functional analysis before you graduate if you can. You will be have more routes available to you in graduate school (some mathematical physicists like to hide in the theoretical world!)
 
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