Which of these technologies would be hard to do in Star Wars?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of various hypothetical technologies within the Star Wars universe, examining which technologies might be challenging for scientists in that setting to create. Participants explore the implications of existing science and technology depicted in Star Wars, as well as the genre's classification as fantasy versus science fiction.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that none of the technologies listed are beyond realization in the Star Wars universe, citing the advanced technologies already present, such as artificial gravity (AG), artificial intelligence (AI), and faster-than-light (FTL) travel.
  • One participant specifically mentions femtotechnology as potentially challenging due to the extremely small scales involved, which complicate reliable manipulation.
  • Another participant argues that Star Wars is pure fantasy and questions the value of speculating on real science within it, while others counter that it is a form of science fiction where science is not taken seriously.
  • The Alcubierre drive is highlighted as particularly challenging, with discussions on the difficulties of producing negative mass density and the complexities of the associated scientific literature.
  • Some participants express differing views on the classification of Star Wars as fantasy versus science fiction, with arguments about the presence of underlying scientific principles versus the narrative's reliance on fantastical elements.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of magic in fantasy and how it relates to the technology in Star Wars, with some asserting that the technology operates under consistent physical processes rather than arbitrary magic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the classification of Star Wars as either fantasy or science fiction, with multiple competing views on the implications of this classification for discussing the technologies in question. The feasibility of specific technologies also remains contested.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions of fantasy and science fiction, and the discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of technology and magic in the Star Wars universe. The complexity of certain technologies, such as the Alcubierre drive, is acknowledged but not resolved.

  • #31
Vanadium 50 said:
Oh, that wasn't a bad pun. But if you want some really bad puns, that can be arranged.
That sounds good. I'm even interested in it :wink:
 
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  • #32
KurtChris said:
That sounds good. I'm even interested in it :wink:
Have you ever heard of Obi Wan's less famous child? Obi Two?

Or the most popular card game among wookies? Chew Baccarat?

Or do you know how you prepare a meal on Endor? You catch one of the little bears and you ewok them.
 
  • #33
I’ve been wondering about science and scientific progression in the Star Wars universe. Even though people have pointed out that Star Wars is science fantasy and doesn’t care about science- that really isn’t true. Scientists are mentioned all the time in Star Wars. The society runs on science just like ours does. The stories were are shown are those of a religious order so science obviously takes a backseat but even the Jedi use technology. Lightsabers aren’t made out of wood!

I just wonder what could be the next thing in science that scientists in Star Wars can pursue. They had FTL for millennia. You would logically think that whatever sci fi stuff you isn’t exist is fair game like teleportation and time travel BUT both those two things are something all people (sentient beings) have wanted since the beginning of time so the fact that they don’t exist must mean they tried and those things are impossible.

Star Wars does have nanotech. It’s mentioned in several mediums so you would think that the logical next step would be pico and femtotechnology but the whole midichlorian thing makes me think it’s impossible. I also don’t really believe you can go smaller in the real world either.

Matter replication and simulated reality seem to be good bets and I bet both exist BUT I bet the former exists and they won’t let it hit market because it would destabilize the economy and lead to a post-scarcity society like Star Trek. The latter also probably exists but probably isn’t healthy; may only exist for rich people on rich planets or just isn’t spoken about.

That being said: What could be worked on by scientists in Star Wars?
 
  • #34
More accurate blasters. Storm troopers can't seem to hit anything.
 
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  • #35
Vanadium 50 said:
More accurate blasters. Storm troopers can't seem to hit anything.
Everything is balanced by the force. The blasters are fine. The storm troopers would be good shots any time there are fewer of them. Han, Luke, and Leia were very accurate. That includes when Leia was shooting with a blaster taken from a storm trooper.
Key strategy is to run away from a platoon. You can pick off a few while they cannot aim. If you ambush and exterminate the last survivors will kill most of your squad.
 
  • #36
Maximum7 said:
That being said: What could be worked on by scientists in Star Wars?
The Star Wars universe is in desperate need of better kitchen technology.
So e.g. these much desired meals can be prepared:
  • Chili Con Jar Jar.
  • Ewok Stir-Fry.
  • Cooked Porg and rice soup.
 
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  • #37
Maximum7 said:
What could be worked on by scientists in Star Wars?
I can't speak for the rebels, but it is plainly obvious that the Sith/Empire/First order definitely needs to improve their defenses of the Death Star technologies. They can blow up planets, but they sure can't defend their big guns.
 
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  • #38
Do any of you recall reading a Star Wars book (Legends or Canon) where you recall them implying or downright stating something that could NOT be achieved with their current science and technology

I have two examples from Legends I found. One was in Tatooine Ghost, where a dehydrated Han Solo remarked that with all the “eggheads” in the galaxy; none of them could create a substitute for water in humans in a pill or injection

Also in another book, the Hapan Prince Isolder said that telescopes aren’t powerful enough to see people as they were hundreds of years ago on distant planets

However, I think nu-canon telescopes can probably do that.

Anything else?
 
  • #40
i’m not sure but it seems like creating an artificial universe would take more energy than is available in our universe
 
  • #41
Whipley Snidelash said:
i’m not sure but it seems like creating an artificial universe would take more energy than is available in our universe

What makes you think that?
 
  • #42
Tghu Verd said:
What makes you think that?
I probably made the error of assumption that you would be creating a universe the size of ours which you probably wouldn’t have to do. But even so you would first need all the Energy that’s contained in the universe you’re creating plus the energy to create it plus the energy loss of any inefficiency in the creation. If you try to create a universe the size of ours, that’s more energy than there is here.
 
  • #43
Well, ours didn't arrive the size it was, so perhaps there is a mechanism of less is more? It's all conjecture without some kind of calcs to model it out, so I don't think you can assume anything until you have a theory of how a new universe might be created in the first place.
 
  • #44
It may not have been the size but I think it had all the energy. If you’re referring to the big bang theory that isn’t proven or established science. And I personally doubt it happened
 
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  • #45
russ_watters said:
Having never read any of the books and preferring to view the original trilogy as the only canon, I'll say The Force is just magic, and no explanation is needed (or desired).

And really, the midi-chlorians don't actually provide any useful explanation or insight. Their only value is to enable a blood test, which is pointless.

I used to think I could see midi-chlorians in my eyes under certain conditions. Turns out I could actually see when the light was just right blood cells flowing through the veins inside my eyes. At first I thought they were just random movements but then I noticed that the they follow the same path one after another. I was severely disappointed.
 
  • #46
Whipley Snidelash said:
If you’re referring to the big bang theory that isn’t proven or established science.

Even though this is the SF forum, false claims about actual science are still not permitted. Please bear that in mind.
 
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