Which Points on the Curve y = sin(2x) + 2 sin(x) Have a Horizontal Tangent Line?

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The discussion revolves around finding the x-coordinates of points on the curve y = sin(2x) + 2 sin(x) where the tangent line is horizontal, specifically within the domain x = [0,2π).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the condition for a horizontal tangent line, noting that it corresponds to a slope of zero. There are attempts to factor the derivative and find values that satisfy the equation cos(2x) + cos(x) = 0. Some participants share specific x-values they believe may work, while others suggest using trigonometric identities to simplify the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various approaches to solving the problem, with some participants providing insights into factoring and using trigonometric identities. There is an acknowledgment of different methods being explored, but no explicit consensus on the final solution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the given domain and are considering the implications of trigonometric identities in their reasoning. There is a playful acknowledgment of the challenges posed by trigonometric functions in calculus.

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Find the x-coordinate of all points on the curve y = sin(2x) + 2 sin(x) at which the tangent line is horizontal. Consider the domain x = [0,2π).

f'(x)=2cos2x+2cosx
 
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Whats the slope of a horizontal line?
 
the slope is zero
 
The first thing that I would want to do is to factor out the 2.

2(cos(2x) + cos(x)) this makes things easier because now all we have to focus on is the cos(2x) + cos(x) part. Why? Because the 2 in the equation is not going to make the zero, it's what ever that was inside (the cos(2x) + cos(x) in out case).

So now we just have to find what values make cos(2x) + cos(x) = 0.
The trick in this one was to find out, what x value multiplied in the first quadrant by 2 would make the (2x) part be in a quadrant with the opposite value.
We do this so the cos(x) values cancel each other out. I had to do some trial and error here and found some values. They included π/3, π, and (5π)/3.

I hope you understand my logic!

[PLAIN]http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3142/math2r.png
 
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Nice diagram mystic :smile:

If you're trying to find where [tex]cos(2x)+cos(x)=0[/tex], you can use the formula [tex]cos(2x)=2cos^2(x)-1[/tex] and then you have a quadratic in cos(x) which you can solve.
 
Mentallic said:
Nice diagram mystic :smile:

If you're trying to find where [tex]cos(2x)+cos(x)=0[/tex], you can use the formula [tex]cos(2x)=2cos^2(x)-1[/tex] and then you have a quadratic in cos(x) which you can solve.

Thanks.

Also, I never thought of making it into a quadratic. Nice trick :P
 
Yep :-p I invented it, so don't believe anyone that tells you this trick has been known for centuries now.
 
Well when you get into limits, integrals, and derivatives the trig identities leave your brain :P
 
Thank you so much everyone:) I really appreciate it:)
 

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