Which principle would be violated?

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The discussion centers on the implications of varying fundamental constants, specifically the fine-structure constant (alpha), on the principles of general relativity (GR). It identifies that such variations would violate the Einstein Equivalence Principle (EEP), particularly its formulation that states the outcome of local non-gravitational experiments is independent of location and time. The conversation suggests that while this violation is significant, it does not necessarily invalidate GR, as alternative theories could accommodate these variations. The mention of local position invariance raises further questions about the stability of physical constants over time.

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It would violate common formulations of the Einstein Equivalence Principle, one part of which is:

"The outcome of any local non-gravitational experiment is independent of where and when in the universe it is performed."

See, for example, section 2.1 of:

http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2006-3/

However, this principle is more involved in motivating GR, than functioning as a strict consequence, given the equations of GR.

So a different question would be, could a theory of varying alpha be consistent with GR? I am not sure that is so difficult. One could imagine some field permeating the universe, following a covariant law, that influences alpha.

In any case, I think GR would not be the only major modern theory affected by varying alpha. I think it makes the article more exciting to specifically mention GR.
 
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I see in the link you posted that part of the EEP is local position invariance, which has something to do with constants in time? What would that mean if violated?
 

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