Which way does a high voltage spark jump?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the behavior of high voltage sparks, specifically whether the spark jumps from the positive terminal to the negative terminal or vice versa. Participants explore the underlying mechanisms of spark formation, including the role of ionization and the movement of electrons.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that since current is carried by electrons, the spark should jump from the negative terminal to the positive terminal.
  • Another participant proposes that the spark results from the ionization of air molecules, where electrons are transferred between molecules, leading to the formation of negatively and positively charged ions that move towards their respective terminals.
  • A later reply supports the idea of simultaneous ionization around both terminals, stating that when the plasma meets in the middle, a conducting path is formed, allowing current to flow across the gap.
  • Another participant mentions that high-speed cameras have illustrated the phenomenon, showing that the spark appears to light up the entire gap at once rather than jumping from one terminal to the other.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the direction of the spark and the mechanisms involved, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the exact nature of the spark's behavior.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the behavior of electrons and the conditions necessary for ionization are not fully explored, leaving certain aspects of the discussion unresolved.

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Hello All!

Quick question...

When a high voltage capacitor is charged to say 3000 volts, a spark

will jump across the terminals.

Does the spark jump from the positive to negative terminal, or from negative to positive?

Thanks Very Much!

Bill
 
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Well since current is carried by electrons, then one should expect it to jump from negative to positive.
 
i've always thunk that the spark was from the ionization of the air molecules in between when the E-field is intense enough to yank electrons offa some molecules and attach them to others. while the air molecules close the the negative terminal will get extra electrons, the molecules next to the positive terminal will have missing electrons. the negatively-charged ions will fly toward the positive terminal and the positively-charged ions will, just as quickly, fly to the negative terminal. i think the spark starts at both terminals and sort of meets in the middle.
 
Oh yeah, I forgot about ionisation.
 
Thank you very much!
 
rbj is correct -- plasma (ionized air) forms around around both terminals. When the plasma meets in the middle of the gap, a conducting path is formed, and the current rushes across. The whole path lights up simultaneously, as the current is continuous throughout the gap. Even if you use a super-slow-motion camera, you wouldn't see a "spark" jump from one terminal to the other; you'd just see the entire gap light up at once.

- Warren
 
Hi,

The video link below shows what has already been said, but in quite a dramatic way.

http://www.break.com/index/747-struck-by-lightning.html

Notice how the lightning seems to form all at once along its entire length? From stuff I have read on websites etc, I think the differences in intensity along its length are to do with the temperature and humidity of the air its traveling through. It looks pretty sweet though, whatever is causing it..unless by chance you were one of the passengers on that plane..

Utwig
 
The quick simple answer to your question about spark jump is that electrons flow from neg to pos. This has been illustrated on science shows using high speed cameras.
 

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