Which would have greater pressure at the end, an L shape or Y shaped

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The discussion centers on the comparison of pressure at the end of two different funnel shapes, specifically an L shape and a Y shape. Participants explore the implications of fluid dynamics principles, particularly in relation to the height of the fluid in each funnel shape.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that with a fairly slow flow velocity and equal height for both funnels, the pressure would be approximately the same.
  • Another participant questions whether the taller funnel would have greater pressure, implying a potential relationship between height and pressure.
  • A later reply provides a formula for pressure in a fluid at rest, indicating that pressure depends on depth rather than horizontal dimensions, and concludes that if both funnels are the same height, the pressure at any point will be the same regardless of shape.
  • This reply also emphasizes that the atmospheric pressure, fluid density, and gravitational force must be the same for the comparison to hold.
  • The discussion includes a practical note about the application of these principles in constructing a beer bong.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between funnel shape and pressure, with some suggesting that height is the determining factor while others question this assumption. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the impact of shape on pressure.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions include that the flow velocity is slow and that the atmospheric pressure, fluid density, and gravitational force are constant across both funnel shapes. The discussion does not resolve the implications of these assumptions on the overall comparison.

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which would have greater pressure at the end, an L shape or Y shaped funnel?
 
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Assuming a fairly slow flow velocity, and assuming the same height for each funnel, it would be approximately the same.
 


The taller one?
 


Hello,

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm taking the 2nd calculus based physics course fliuds, thermo, etc.)

The pressure of a fluid in a container at rest can be defined as:

p = p0 * ρgh

where p is the absolute pressure, the pressure your looking for at a certain depth. p0 is the pressure from the atmosphere which bears down on the fluid. ρ is the density of the fluid. g of course is gravity. h is the length from the surface to where you're trying to find the pressure.

So if were dealing with containers undergoing the same pressure from the atmosphere, that contain the same density liquid, have the same gravitational force applied to them then the only factor is the height or length from the surface to the point your looking for the pressure. In essence, the pressure at any given depth really only depends upon the depth but not on any horizontal dimension.

So if we're to assume this Y shaped container and this T shaped container are both the same height then the pressure at any point in those containers will be the same! And, this would also apply for any kind of shape you can think of (of the same height).

Take this into consideration when constructing your next beer bong.
 

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