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Thanks for bearing with my dumbnessIvan Seeking said:Just a play on words.![]()
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Thanks for bearing with my dumbnessIvan Seeking said:Just a play on words.![]()
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denverdoc said:Last time I looked into this, getting a PhD in experimental psych is very difficult--mainly because getting into such a program is so difficult, harder by a long shot than grad school in general, and in ascending order of rejection rates: law school, med school, and even Vet school.
Now they have PsyD's etc which is usu a 2 year gig, without a strict dissertation requirement. My ex had one of those. But Brain science these days is not for the faint of heart.
Counseling is more like advanced vocational/OTJ training as the theories don't amt to a hill of beans. I recall some nonsense about degree of difficulty, and supremacy being: social sciences are not on the map, then biology must defer to chemistry, and chemistry to physics, and physics to math, and math to God. Silly. However, making a living demands more from an astrophysicist/cosmologist than as a cosmetoligist. But then they are in lesser demand.![]()
Well,did you learn how to learn then?Math Is Hard said:denverdoc - we were joking. I am a senior completing a BS in cognitive science.
Moonbear said:You'll find that most of the people here with PhDs don't really flaunt it, so might not reply to this thread. That's not what we're here for. (I'm just one of the shameless ones.)
tehno said:Well,did you learn how to learn then?
Sorry,I just couldn't resist no to ask..![]()
gravenewworld said:you know what they say about PhD, PhD=Piled higher and deeper.
Seriously though, I feel like I have learned a ton of PhD level organic chemistry and pharmacology just from working. I feel like I don't need to go through hell just for a few letters after my name to learn some advanced topics in chemistry.
Math Is Hard said:denverdoc - we were joking. I am a senior completing a BS in cognitive science. I know a little something about the programs. We were poking fun at those perceived difficulty levels of which you speak.
But to tell you the truth, at the undergrad level, I am sometimes a little jealous of the "general psych" majors because they have fewer requirements than I have in my program. (We have 3 psych undergrad programs here: general, cognitive science, and psychobiology).The psychobio majors probably have to work the hardest out of all of us.
My PhD was in neurosciences and biophysics, but ended up ABD due to my parents deaths whie I was writing my dissertation and then subsequently, some life events like those of Astronuc. The MD would have taken only 4. So a waste of 7 years including 3 as a postdoc, but got to do some some pretty cool electrophysiology. No regrets.Robert Mak said:Im just wondering that who has a PhD in this forum?
Nah. Ironically, just two BS's.Tom Mattson said:I suspect Hurkyl does too
Schrodinger's Dog said:I'd just like to flaunt the fact that I don't have a PhD, in fact I don't even have a degree yet, just to let everyone know.I am in fact a peon: no that's not a particle, I mean in the plebian, proletariat type sense. I don't usually like to boast about it but since everyone but the modest was flashing their wares I thought I'd say something.
And to the last poster, no doubt. When I wanted advice on how to get an experiment done, first guy I talked with was our resident machinest who didn't even have a BS...but aptitude and imagination up the wazoo, plus the skills to actually build a working proto.I disagree that a PhD is necessary, but it does make it easier. I was approached by a university about joining the faculty - to teach and do research - and there was an emphasis on the reseach. While I had to turn it down due to other obligations, I am hoping to work with that university and others in the future. Right now, I have a business to build.humanino said:I would like to point that, if you want to do an academic career in research, a PhD is mandatory. Apart from that, I know of many non-PhD people much more valuable to perform experiments, even sometimes having really better insights into the physics, than some PhD people.
I have never cared for titles, ranks, labels, . . .. . . , I mean in the plebian, proletariat type sense.
Severian said:I have to examine someone for a PhD next week. I just started reading the thesis today.
arunma said:I thought I got a PhD in the mail last week. Turns out it was only a couple of BS degrees, so I tossed 'em in a corner.
mathwonk said:most people just walk in the oral and pass the guy, leaving all review to the advisor.
Yikes! That's certainly not true in the departments I've been in. I know a lot of people that leave the reading to the last minute (though, usually, that's because they know what the student has been doing all along through committee meetings and earlier drafts, so don't need to spend days reading it...it's more a joke that we read the dissertations the night before), but they always read it, and every once in a while, a student really doesn't get passed (granted, they have to really do something horrid to get that far and not get a degree, but it does happen). Usually we catch the ones at high risk of not making it during the qualifying exams though.denverdoc said:That explains those socialist views--classic case of a have-not sour grapes/grapes of wrathAnd to the last poster, no doubt. When I wanted advice on how to get an experiment done, first guy I talked with was our resident machinest who didn't even have a BS...but aptitude and imagination up the wazoo, plus the skills to actually build a working proto.
Astronuc said:I have never cared for titles, ranks, labels, . . .
I'm waiting for the how many publications (if>0.3) do you have threadMoonbear said:You'll find that most of the people here with PhDs don't really flaunt it, so might not reply to this thread. That's not what we're here for. (I'm just one of the shameless ones.)
mathwonk said:starting 6 days early is way above average. you are a good guy. the student will appreciate any comments you are able to generate, no matter how hard it is to do so.
most people just walk in the oral and pass the guy, leaving all review to the advisor.
Schrodinger's Dog said:Not really, being poor explains that, and I am studying for a physics degree, I'm not a socialist, it's just that being liberal in England is practically akin to communism in the US, you don't have a political spectrum more of a political wing.
Sour grapeswhat gave you that impression? I'm a little offended by that I'll have to be honest, what gives you that impression? Do you think I'm wondering around going, damn literati, must be less like prole, and working my day around how I can get an edge on the more eductated? Because let me assure you I'm not? I'm like this with everyone; poor or rich, smart or stupid, ignorant or wise,educated or educationless lol I just can't resist poking fun at the foibles of people, it's ingrained in my culture I'm afraid
Obviously the irony was a bit lost on some people. Me a socialistyeah right. I don't even like labour that much and there allegedly left wing. You crazy Yanks crease me up with your partisan politics
Yeah like Dr.
Don't worry I was just taking the P.
denverdoc said:Man I was just teasing/using irony as in anyone who doesn't like the status quo is ... Sorry if it went taken the wrong way.
denverdoc said:To my way of thinking it was utterly absurd...and I tried using a smilie, just one of those things that went sideways on the net as they occasionally do.
klusener said:Oh my.
Is that YOU, Arun? This is Mr. X.![]()