Who invented electric potential and why?

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The discussion revolves around the historical development and necessity of the concept of electric potential, exploring its origins, significance, and the individuals associated with its formulation. Participants examine both theoretical and practical implications of electric potential in physics, including comparisons to gravitational potential and alternative approaches to problem-solving in electrical contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the necessity of the concept of electric potential, drawing parallels to gravitational potential.
  • Others argue that using electric potential simplifies calculations compared to using electric fields directly.
  • One participant notes that neither electric fields nor electric potentials are more fundamental, suggesting both approaches have their merits.
  • Several participants identify Alessandro Volta as a key figure in the development of the concept, with contributions from Gauss and Maxwell in the mathematical framework.
  • A participant mentions that the concept of electric potential originated as a mathematical tool to facilitate calculations, gaining acceptance over time.
  • Michael Faraday is highlighted for his early work related to electric potential energy, while George Green is credited with applying the concept to electricity, although his work was initially overlooked.
  • Some participants discuss the historical context, mentioning earlier contributors like Cavendish, Laplace, and others who influenced the understanding of potential in physics.
  • One participant humorously suggests that Chuck Norris invented electric potential, reflecting a light-hearted take on the discussion.
  • Another participant connects the concept of potential to Leibniz's notion of potentia motrix, indicating its philosophical roots.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the necessity and historical development of electric potential, with no clear consensus on a single inventor or the definitive reasons for its establishment. Multiple competing perspectives remain on the significance and application of the concept.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions highlight the limitations of defining a single inventor for electric potential, as the concept evolved through contributions from various scientists over time. The historical context and the mathematical nature of the concept are also noted as factors that complicate its attribution.

Anti Hydrogen
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Why was that concept necessary ?, I know there's also a gravitational equivalent of this concept
I couldn't find anything on google
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Daniel
 
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The why part... because subtraction is a lot more convenient than line integrals!
 
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Anti Hydrogen said:
Why was that concept necessary ?, I know there's also a gravitational equivalent of this concept
I couldn't find anything on google
Thanks
Daniel
What do you expect as an answer? God? Nature? Maxwell? The concept explains the phenomena, so it was accepted.
 
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Anti Hydrogen said:
Why was that concept necessary ?
There are often two alternative approaches to a problem. One involves Forces and the other involves Energy and Work. Very often, it's the Energy based approach that is quickest and easiest. A voltmeter tells you the potential difference between two points in a circuit. Use that information to find out what the circuit will do and you're home and dry. If you try to do the equivalent, using the Electric Fields all around the components and wires, you'd still be working it out by Christmas.

Neither Electric Fields nor Electric Potentials are more fundamental so neither approach is more 'correct'.
 
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Anti Hydrogen said:
Why was that concept necessary ?
If you don't like it, don't use it. But if you go that route, I don't recommend you ever try to do any circuit analysis. See post #4
 
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To answer the question "who invented...", consider Alessandro Volta. Gauss and Maxwell developed the mathematics while Volta designed and built one of the first modern* batteries based on chemical cells. The SI unit volt and common term voltage invoke his name.

*Archeological and textual evidence indicates ancient use of chemical solutions used in early metallurgy and ceramics that probably involved electricity similar to modern metal plating, but Volta proved that electricity can be consistently generated and stored in batteries.
 
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The Coulomb force , the electric field, and the electric potential are not three kinds of physics, they are three ways to describe the same physics. Each of the three is more convenient for some purposes, but that doesn't make them different things.

So I guess the answer is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles-Augustin_de_Coulomb
 
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It is simply a formulation that is often used to make calculations, and perhaps understanding, easier.
 
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No one "invents" the way the world works, we just describe it. Force and energy are two such descriptors of the world we live in. At times, it is easier to describe something with the latter, so we do so.
 
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if you are asking historically, one can make the case for Volta, Green, Poisson, maybe Galvani. The problem with picking "who" is that this concept originated as a mathematical trick to make calculations easier, and only over time gained traction as a physical quantity. One could put the date of that as late as 1960, or with some quibbles, argue that it hasn't been completely established yet.
 
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What about this quote?

Who was the first person to appreciate the value and usefulness of normalizing electric potential energy to each charge carrier?
Michael Faraday starting in 1812 then in 1832, he completed a series of experiments aimed at investigating the fundamental nature of electricity; Faraday used "static", batteries, and "animal electricity" to produce the phenomena of electrostatic attraction, electrolysis, magnetism, etc.

The name of Potential was first given to this function by George Green, who made it the basis of his treatment of electricity.

Green's essay was neglected by mathematicians till 1846, and before that time most of its important theorems had been rediscovered by Gauss, Chasles, Sturm, and Thomson Essay on the Application of Mathematical Analysis to the Theories of Electricity and Magnetism, Nottingham, 1828. Eeprinted in Crelle's Journal, and in Mr. Ferrer's edition of Green's Works.

Ref J.C. Maxwell A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism 1873
 
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What do you expect as an answer? God? Nature? Maxwell? The concept explains the phenomena, so it was accepted.
Who invented electric potential and why?

Chuck Norris invented it ##-## why? ##-## he's not mean-spirited ##-## he doesn't have to to keep ##all## the power to himself ##\dots##
 
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I would think potential derives from Leibniz's potentia motrix, which corresponds to potential energy.
 
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The concept of potential existed in mechanics and for fluid dynamics prior to the analysis of the 'electric and magnetic fluids' by George Green. He acknowledged the earlier work of Cavendish, Laplace, Fourier, Cauchy and Poisson.

In 1828 Green wrote “An Essay on the Application of Mathematical Analysis to the
Theories of Electricity and Magnetism”.
https://ia800709.us.archive.org/28/items/mathematicalpape00gree/mathematicalpape00gree.pdf
In that he states;
“It is by considering the relations existing between the density of the electricity in any system, and the potential functions thence arising, that we have been enabled to submit many electrical phenomena to calculation, which had hitherto resisted the attempts of analysts;”

So Green did not invent the concept of potential, but he was the first to apply the concept of potential to electricity.
 
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