Why Are Circuits so Complicated?

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The discussion centers around the complexity of electrical circuits, exploring why multiple components like resistors, capacitors, integrated circuits, and transistors are used instead of a single component for achieving desired electrical conditions. Participants express a desire to understand the fundamentals of electrical engineering and electronics.

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  • One participant notes that circuits are designed to meet specific electrical conditions, implying that various components serve different functions.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding individual components and basic circuits is essential to grasp the complexity of circuit design.
  • Some participants argue that more complicated circuits enable more interesting and useful functionalities.
  • Contrarily, one participant expresses the view that circuits should be made as simple as possible, suggesting that complexity arises from the need to perform complex tasks rather than from a desire to complicate designs.
  • Several participants seek recommendations for resources to learn about circuits and their components, indicating a shared interest in foundational knowledge.
  • A participant provides a mechanical analogy comparing circuits to a car factory, emphasizing the necessity of multiple components for various functions.
  • Multiple links to resources and tutorials are shared, highlighting different approaches to learning about electricity and electronics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of views regarding the necessity and purpose of circuit complexity, with some advocating for the usefulness of complicated circuits while others emphasize simplicity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach to circuit design.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge varying levels of familiarity with electrical engineering, and some express uncertainty about current educational resources available online.

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Individuals interested in electrical engineering, electronics, and circuit design, particularly those seeking foundational knowledge or resources for further study.

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Circuits are used to get electricity to the right conditions needed for a certain product, this I know. But, why are there so many resistors, capacitors, integrated circuits and transistors instead of one of each to get the electricity to the right voltage, current, etc. I know this is probably a very dumb question but I just joined and I'm here to learn as much as I can. Especially in electrical engineering and electronics because it's really interesting but I don't know where to start with understanding electrical appliances and electronics.
 
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In order to understand this, you have to make at least a cursory study first of the individual components such as resistors, capacitors, inductors, diodes and transistors and then at least a cursor study of basic circuits. When you have done that you will have answered your question.

The short answer is "because they do so many different things and because the only way to do those things is to use the components needed".

For example, try designing a simple flat-DC output power supply by converting 120V AC wall power to, say, 10v DC. Try doing this with no diodes. Try doing it with no inductor (transformer). Try doing it with no capacitors. Doesn't work, now does it?
 
Thanks for that it makes sense. Is there anywhere I can go that you would recommend to get a basic feel for circuits and their components?
 
More complicated circuits means more interesting/useful things they can do. So circuits are made as complicated as we can make them.
 
russ_watters said:
More complicated circuits means more interesting/useful things they can do. So circuits are made as complicated as we can make them.

I understand what you are saying, russ, but I disagree in one regard. I think we make circuits as SIMPLE as we possibly can, but when doing complex things, that isn't necessarity very simple. If we made them as complicated as we can make them, then we would just design the minimal circuit and add a bunch of useless extras.
 
mousecop said:
Thanks for that it makes sense. Is there anywhere I can go that you would recommend to get a basic feel for circuits and their components?

I've been away from electrical engineering for about 40 years so don't know what good resources are today but I'm very sure the Internet will turn up good stuff if you just Google "basic electronic circuits".
 
I'm not sure how good they are but for dummies has books on both circuits and their components. You can just look it up on Google
 
mousecop said:
Circuits are used to get electricity to the right conditions needed for a certain product, this I know. But, why are there so many resistors, capacitors, integrated circuits and transistors instead of one of each to get the electricity to the right voltage, current, etc. I know this is probably a very dumb question but I just joined and I'm here to learn as much as I can. Especially in electrical engineering and electronics because it's really interesting but I don't know where to start with understanding electrical appliances and electronics.

I remember I got this same feeling as a youngster the first time I looked at the innards of a TV, so much stuff in there! What is it all for?

Let me offer up an mechanical analogy: Consider a car factory, which you can imagine consists of thousands of square feet of machines, and let me rephrase your question in that vein...

"Machines are used to get parts to the right places needed for a car. Why are there so many pulleys, levers, screws instead of one of each to get the parts to the right places to make a car?

A TV is kind of like a car factory in this sense, many individual things need to happen to get the broadcast from the antenna to the screen & speaker and there are circuits in place to take care of each of these things.
 
mousecop said:
Thanks for that it makes sense. Is there anywhere I can go that you would recommend to get a basic feel for circuits and their components?

Here's one place to start -- http://www.101science.com/Radio.htm#1
 
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mousecop, Welcome to Physics Forums.

Some folks spend a lifetime in electronics and they continually learn new things. Start with the basic fundamentals, and continue onward and upward, if you care to.

“This tutorial is a brief introduction to the concepts of charge, voltage, and current. This tutorial is not as long and tedious as a college textbook, yet it contains more information than students are likely to find in an elementary schoolbook.”
http://www.swansontec.com/set.html

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“Here is the "Electricity - Basic Navy Training Courses" (NAVPERS 10622) in its entirety (or will be eventually). It should provide one of the Internet's best resources for people seeking a basic electricity course - complete with examples worked out (links to quizzes at end of chapters).
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This book is intended as a basic reference for all enlisted men of the Navy whose duties require them to have a knowledge of the fundamentals of electricity.”
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