Why Are My Calculations for Force on a Charge Not Matching Up?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the force on a -7 nC charge due to two other charges, with participants exploring the application of Coulomb's law and vector components in their calculations. The original poster expresses confusion over their results not matching expected values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces using Coulomb's law and the need to consider vector components for charges located off-axis. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the calculations and the interpretation of charge values.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, suggesting that the original poster needs to clarify their approach to resolving the vector components of the forces. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct methodology to apply in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the units of charge (nano vs. micro) and emphasize the importance of accurately determining the vector components based on the positions of the charges.

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Homework Statement


Trying to find the magnitude of the resulting force on the -7 nC charge at the origin and my answers arent matching up. Is there a step I am missing? I used the pythagorean to find r for both ΔOrigin-Q1 and ΔOrigin-Q2. Here is the graph: http://imgur.com/90TQmQU.


Homework Equations


I've been using
Fy = kQ1Qy/r^2
Fx = kQ1Qx/r^2
Fnet = √(Fx)^2 + (Fy)^2


The Attempt at a Solution


The current attempts have landed me at
Fy = 1.736 * 10^-2
Fx = 1.481 * 10^-2
Fnet = .23 N
 
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You'll have to show how you arrived at your results. They don't look right. Consider that the charges have values in the nanocoulomb range, and the distances are in meters. The resulting forces should be much smaller than you've found.

If you show your work, we can see how to help.
 
Thanks for you reply. Here is what gave me those results:

Fy = ((8.99*10^9)(-7*10^-6)(8*10^-6))/5.385^2
Fx = ((8.99*10^9)(-7*10^-6)(4*10^-6))/4.123^2
Fnet = sqrt((1.736*10^-2)^2 + (1.481*10^-2)^2 ) = 0.23 N
 
kirax105strike said:
Thanks for you reply. Here is what gave me those results:

Fy = ((8.99*10^9)(-7*10^-6)(8*10^-6))/5.385^2
Fx = ((8.99*10^9)(-7*10^-6)(4*10^-6))/4.123^2
Fnet = sqrt((1.736*10^-2)^2 + (1.481*10^-2)^2 ) = 0.23 N

Ah. You've taken the individual forces and called them Fx and Fy, but that is not the case. Each of those two forces has X and Y components which contribute to the total X and Y force components.

You would have been correct if the 8nC charge was situated on the Y-axis and the 4nC charge on the X-axis. But both are located off-axis and must therefore their locations are vectors with both x and y components. You'll need to sort out the force components of each with a bit of trig.

Also, nano is smaller than micro... micro is 10-6, nano 10-9. So adjust your charge magnitudes.
 
Thank you for the reply. So to find the X and Y vectors of the individual charges I need to find theta and multiply each magnitude by its respective sin/cos?
 
kirax105strike said:
Thank you for the reply. So to find the X and Y vectors of the individual charges I need to find theta and multiply each magnitude by its respective sin/cos?

That's the idea unless you are familiar with vector algebra, in which case you might forgo the trig and work directly with vector operations.
 

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