Why are the stresses not converging in my Ansys plane stress model?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a modeling issue in Ansys related to a plane stress problem involving a square plate with a hexagonal hole. Participants explore the convergence of stress results, specifically \sigma_{x}, \sigma_{y}, and \sigma_{xy}, in relation to mesh refinement and boundary conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster describes a problem with stress convergence in their Ansys model, noting that while displacements converge, the stresses do not.
  • One participant questions the radius of the corners of the hexagonal hole, suggesting that sharp corners may lead to non-converging stress results due to infinite stress at those points.
  • The original poster confirms the radius of the corners is 0.008 [m] and describes the hexagon as regular.
  • Another participant elaborates on the implications of sharp corners, indicating that real materials would yield in a small region at the corners, affecting stress concentration.
  • It is suggested that to address the issue, one might find stress levels around the hole while ignoring local stress concentrations and apply a stress concentration factor from literature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the cause of the non-convergence of stresses, particularly regarding the geometry of the hexagonal hole and its impact on stress distribution. No consensus is reached on a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations related to the modeling assumptions, particularly concerning the geometry of the hexagonal hole and the behavior of materials at sharp corners.

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Hi,

I am trying to model a simple plane stress problem using Ansys. I am using Ansys 14.0.
The problem is a simple square plate, without a corner, and with a hexagon hole around the midle. The boundary conditions consist of a constant pressure on the top side, and full constrain on the bottom.

In order to study the convergence, I listed the maximum displacements and stress on the entire domain. I realized that the displacements converged fairly good. However none of the stresses, namely \sigma_{x}, \sigma_{y} and \sigma_{xy}, converge. You can see on the attached image, how bad the situation is. I don't know exactly why is this happening.
On the attached image I have ploted the converge study for the \sigma_{x} stress only. Note that on the last mesh, I used a mesh 5 times finer that the previous one. Also, the last meshes are highly dense. In fact the 5th mesh from the bottom already corresponds to 50 elements on the right side.

also,

The thickness is around 0.01 [m].
I used plane182 elements, with element behaviour selected as plane stress with thickness.

Any help is appreciated,
 

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Just guessing here, but what is the radius on the corners of the hexagonal hole? Can you plot the results up to where you stop the analysis (or it stopped itself), and see where it's diverging?
 
dawin said:
Just guessing here, but what is the radius on the corners of the hexagonal hole? Can you plot the results up to where you stop the analysis (or it stopped itself), and see where it's diverging?

The radius is 0.008[m]. It is a regular hexagon.

The analysis runs all the way. And pretty fast too.(except for the last mesh)
 
Dawin means the fillet radii at the 6 corners of your hexagon. In your picture, it looks as if the hexagon is 6 straight lines meeting at angles of 120 degrees.

If that is the case, the stresses won't "converge", because the mathematical solution says the stress is infinite at the sharp corners.

Of course in real life, the corners are not perfectly sharp, most structural materials (e.g. metals or plastics) will yield in a small region at the corner, and for metals the material is not probably not even isotropic at length scales of the same order as the grain size.

The way to deal with all that "in real life" is find the stress levels around the hole ignoring the local stress concentrations, and then apply a stress concentration factor from a book like http://www.amazon.com/dp/0470048247/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
Forgot to thank you at the time. Your answer was helpful.
 

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