Why are there only seven crystal systems and not 11

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The discussion clarifies why there are only seven crystal systems instead of eleven, emphasizing the role of symmetry elements over mere side lengths and angles. It highlights that the monoclinic system, characterized by angles a=b=90 and c≠90, features one diad symmetry element, allowing for a 180-degree rotation without altering the crystal's appearance. The conversation also notes that altering lengths A and B does not introduce new symmetry elements, maintaining the monoclinic classification unless angle c is adjusted to 90 degrees, which would then classify it as orthorhombic.

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I mean, the system is clearly related to seeing if the sides are of equal length and if the angles equal 90 degrees. If we first exclude the hexagonal, we have three sides and three angles each of which could be either equal/90degree. That gives us 3^2 = 9 possibilities.

Then looking at the hexagonal and with the same logic, the last length can either equal the two other or it can not, which gives another two possibilities.

The total then being 11 possibilities.. why is there for example no structure with a = b \neq c, \;\; \alpha = \beta = 90 \neq \gamma?
 
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The crystal systems are more precisely defined by their symmetry elements than by the sides and angles. You probably know that the monoclinic system has angles a=b=90, c=/=90 and sides A,B,C not equal. In fact I think it's better to say A,B,C not necessarily equal. The defining characteristic of the monoclinic system is actually that it has one diad, ie if you consider an axis normal to the plane of the angle c, you can rotate the crystal by 180 around that axis with no change. Now imagine making the lengths A and B equal (or even A, B and C). With a little thought you can convince yourself that the crystal does not gain any additional symmetry elements due to this change, since the angle c prevents any diads along the other axes, or otherwise. So it's still monoclinic. Note, however, that if you make the angle c equal to 90, you will be in the orthorhombic system. So that one is a strict criteria.
 
Ok, thanks makes sense now.
 

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