Why ball turns when rotated after being kicked.

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The discussion revolves around the question of why a ball turns when it is kicked with rotation, particularly in the context of sports like table tennis and soccer. Participants explore the underlying physics, including concepts such as angular momentum and the Magnus effect.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a ball will not spin if kicked head-on and attributes spin to the foot hitting the ball at an angle, imparting angular momentum.
  • Another participant clarifies that the original question pertains to why a spinning ball curves in flight, referencing the Magnus effect as a key factor influenced by airflow around the ball.
  • Links to external resources are provided, including a Wikipedia article and another source that offers diagrams and explanations of the Magnus effect.
  • A side note mentions that on Mars, the ball would curve differently, suggesting variations in the Magnus effect due to different atmospheric conditions.

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Participants express differing views on the mechanics of how a ball spins and curves, with no consensus reached on the complete explanation of the phenomena discussed.

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Some assumptions about the conditions under which the ball is kicked and the characteristics of the ball itself are not fully explored, leaving certain aspects of the discussion unresolved.

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Hello,
I have an unsolved question of an exam of my University.
The question is why a ball turns, when somebody kicks it by making it to rotate to itself.
 
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lol, doesn't really make sense. If you kick a ball head on ie perpendicular to the ball, then the ball will not spin. Unless there is unequal amounts of drag acting on either side, which is not really possible. The reason why a ball will spin is that the foot does not hit perpendicular to the surface and so give the ball some angular momentum.
 
amppatel said:
lol, doesn't really make sense. If you kick a ball head on ie perpendicular to the ball, then the ball will not spin. Unless there is unequal amounts of drag acting on either side, which is not really possible. The reason why a ball will spin is that the foot does not hit perpendicular to the surface and so give the ball some angular momentum.

That does not even answer the question. The question was, why a spinning ball turns in flight like commonly seen in table tennis or banana kicks.

This is usually attributed to the Magnus effect, which is caused by the airflow, which has a different velocity compared to the center of the ball at both sides of the turning ball. However this also depends on some characteristics of the ball.

It is also described here: http://www.soccerballworld.com/Physics.htm
 
Thank you very much!
 
Interesting side note (at least, I hope it's interesting):

On Mars, the ball would curve http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_curveballs_030221.html" .
 
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