Why can only the weak interaction change quark flavour?

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The discussion centers on the question of why only the weak interaction is capable of changing the flavour of quarks. Participants explore various ideas related to the underlying mechanisms, including the roles of exchange particles and charge conservation, while considering theoretical implications and limitations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the need for a massive exchange particle is due to the change in flavour also implying a change in mass, questioning whether a photon could mediate this change if it were 'off mass shell'.
  • Others argue that the requirement for an electrically charged exchange particle, such as the W boson, is essential for flavour change, noting that the Z boson does not cause flavour change due to its neutrality.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that different quark flavours possess different values of weak charge, necessitating an exchange particle with weak charge, thus limiting flavour changes to those mediated by W bosons.
  • One participant challenges the idea that mass is relevant to the discussion, asserting that a hypothetical graviton would be massless and that the W boson is the only charged boson, while also noting the possibility of uncharged bosons mediating certain flavour changes.
  • Another participant highlights that charge conservation rules out certain transitions, such as "up -> down + photon," but does not necessarily apply to others like "charm -> up + photon."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind quark flavour change, with no consensus reached on which idea is the most accurate or applicable. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific assumptions about charge conservation and the properties of exchange particles, which may not be universally accepted or fully explored in the discussion.

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Hi there, so my question is as follows.

I understand that only the weak interaction can change the flavour of a quark, but why?

Idea 1: It's due to the change in flavour also meaning a change in mass, thus a massive exchange particle is needed (gravity is negligible so forget the massive graviton). But then since the exchange particles are themselves virtual, could a photon for example, not simply be 'off mass shell' and produce the same result?

Idea 2: It's to do with a change in electric charge (assuming we always deal with U,C,T to S,B,D quarks flavours or vice versa, which i don't know if that is true), thus an electrically charged exchange particle is needed, i.e. W boson (and hence Z boson doesn't cause a change in quark flavour since it's electrically neutral)?

Idea 3: The different quark flavours have a different value of weak charge (which is a different quantum number), thus to change this from one value to another requires an exchange particle with weak charge, thus the W bosons are the only gauge bosons that can cause this flavour change (and again, thus the Z boson cannot since it has no weak charge)?

I'm sure that someone is about to confuse me with some gauge field theory stuff, but I would appreciate an answer, despite how confusing it may seem to an undergrad such as myself.

Thank you kindly for any response.
 
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Weak interactions are the only interactions whichd deal with the SU(2) doublets containing quarks with different charges. All other interactions are blind to this difference. In essence, it is akin to asking why only strong interactions can change the colour of a quark with the addition that electroweak symmetry breaking makes the W charged under the residual U(1) symmetry, i.e., electromagnetism.
 
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Orodruin said:
Weak interactions are the only interactions whichd deal with the SU(2) doublets containing quarks with different charges. All other interactions are blind to this difference. In essence, it is akin to asking why only strong interactions can change the colour of a quark with the addition that electroweak symmetry breaking makes the W charged under the residual U(1) symmetry, i.e., electromagnetism.
Thank you for your response. Can I please ask for a recommended text for this material, preferably an introductory text and then separately a more advanced text.

Thanks again.
 
AlanKirby said:
Idea 1: It's due to the change in flavour also meaning a change in mass, thus a massive exchange particle is needed (gravity is negligible so forget the massive graviton). But then since the exchange particles are themselves virtual, could a photon for example, not simply be 'off mass shell' and produce the same result?
This has nothing to do with masses.
A hypothetical graviton would be massless.
AlanKirby said:
Idea 2: It's to do with a change in electric charge (assuming we always deal with U,C,T to S,B,D quarks flavours or vice versa, which i don't know if that is true), thus an electrically charged exchange particle is needed, i.e. W boson (and hence Z boson doesn't cause a change in quark flavour since it's electrically neutral)?
The W boson is the only boson with electric charge, but you could have changes like charm->up or muon->tau with uncharged bosons. It is easy to allow a boson to mediate those interactions, but we never observed those interactions.
 
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mfb said:
This has nothing to do with masses.
A hypothetical graviton would be massless.
The W boson is the only boson with electric charge, but you could have changes like charm->up or muon->tau with uncharged bosons. It is easy to allow a boson to mediate those interactions, but we never observed those interactions.
Thanks for your response. So are you suggesting that 'idea 2' is the correct way to be thinking about it on a simple level?
 
Well, charge conservation tells you "up -> down + photon" is impossible. It does not tell you "charm -> up + photon" is impossible.
 
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