Why can't we ban adult sites?

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Anyway, most parents don't want their children to see porn . Something more effective must be done to block porn.

Most parents accomplish this by monitoring how their children use the Internet. It's surprising how much time is available for parenting when you don't spend all your time trying to control the lifestyle of everyone else in the world.
 
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Yes No one (man), but GOD can!
Anyway, most parents don't want their children to see porn . Something more effective must be done to block porn.


I think it is hard to block porn completely. We will always have some people out there who have different views about this. If they don't support porn, they don't care at al

Just live your life by the values you have always believed in. You can give up on others but not yourself, never.

and there is no points for defending yourself anymore because no matter what you gonna write, you will be attacked.
 
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The internet is flooded with innumerable porn sites that can contaminate the minds of youngster (<18 years old).
They are very immoral and NASTY, the pictures of gay sex, anal sex, oral sex, incest and so on are so terrible. And most of the porn sites are from USA.

Does this tell me USA government agrees with these porn-culture?
Is it an immoral country?

Why do you allow these nasty things to be legal? What can we do to BAN it?
These sites are not unique to the US, these sites are in every country. Why do you single out the US?
 
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Saint said:
The internet is flooded with innumerable porn sites that can contaminate the minds of youngster (<18 years old).
They are very immoral and NASTY, the pictures of gay sex, anal sex, oral sex, incest and so on are so terrible. And most of the porn sites are from USA.

Does this tell me USA government agrees with these porn-culture?
Is it an immoral country?

Why do you allow these nasty things to be legal? What can we do to BAN it?

That is the democratic nature of the Internet. No one person, company or institution owns and controls it. You have to understand that this porn sites don't only run in the US. It's all over the world! You wouldn't want somebody regulating porn sites since it may cause a chain reaction and before you know it somebody will be regulating your time spent visiting websites, etc...if you don't like a porn site then don't visit it.
Just go to another one more to your liking :rofl:
 
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Yes No one (man), but GOD can!

The funny thing is, god tells me to jerk off. Every day i'm single he's like, so Goalie_Ca, how about you go and download some pr0n on da torrentse. And i'm like, damn god you pwn!11 And god's like "no problm d00d. I found a great site hear u mite like ;) I like to call it eves with implants111 hehe"
 
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I have to say that with all the years I've been on the internet, and with all the email accounts I've had, I've never actually had porn just magically appear. I've gotten advertisements via email to visit porn sites, but they didn't actually contain any pictures. I've never had my browser automatically redirect to a porn site unless I was already viewing something adult-oriented. You actually have to look for it. So, if you want to keep your kids from viewing porn, just don't let them surf the internet unsupervised. It's just like watching the TV. If you know there is programming on that you don't want your children to see, you don't leave them flipping channels while you sit in another room. I even know someone who went to the extreme of removing the televisions from their home, and they didn't object to porn, just to exposing their children to adult topics on TV before they judged they were old enough to understand them in the proper context. The same can be done with the internet. It's a convenience, not a necessity.
 
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pr0n is the main reason why most people use the net-- :cool:
 
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Man.. The best porn I've encountered, is my PlayboyHDTV. It's high-definition playboy TV that comes in on my Voom satellite. Freaking *bad-ass*!

They have this call in show, and people call in and tell the people what to do and they'll do it. Bad ass :)
 
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Saint said:
Yes No one (man), but GOD can!
Anyway, most parents don't want their children to see porn . Something more effective must be done to block porn.

And what God is that? I get the feeling that your God and my God might be completely different entities. There are more religions than I can count so odds are we don't hold the same beliefs.

As far as a more effective way of keeping porn away from kids........
How about better parenting. You would be surprised how good a kid can turn out if the parents put a little time into raising them.
 
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Saint said:
Yes No one (man), but GOD can!
Anyway, most parents don't want their children to see porn . Something more effective must be done to block porn.


First off just because you think god wouldn't want us to look at porn that does not make porn wrong. Porn like everything has it's use in life and if you choose to look at it fine. Don't try and push moral beliefs on people.

Think about the children what about the children. Well you're thinking about the children they are running around getting in trouble. Stop worrying about them and just watch them and prevent them from doing things they shouldn't be doing whether it's looking at porn or running in traffic. It doesn't matter what most parents want. If most parents wanted to pour gas on their kids and watch them burn would it make it right? No. Don't tell responsible adults that they can't look at porn because you refuse to watch your kids.
 
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Why not you say Smoking is Freedom, it only harms the smokers themselves...

Please use your Freedom to defend for the tobacco companies, can you?
Wait, who'se freedom are you talking about here?? The smokers or the tobacco companies? Smoking is a freedom - making a product that kills people is not.
 
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I think that you are jumping to conclusions, and that is why you are using words like *** while you mistake what you think that I am saying.

I agree with you completely. In my house, I have never exposed my child to television.

However, we have friends, and we visit them. Some of them MUST have television on , such that it is not always possible to avoid it. I cannot demand that everyone we visit have all of their family members turn off the television, as that is not always practical in today's society. It can be very difficult to make sure that my kid is never exposed to television 24 hours a day, particularly when I am not there to supervise.


So stop your kids from going to those houses. Why should people like me be punished because you don't want your kids to see something on TV? Is it my fault no and I shouldn't be punished for it. I have no problem with most of the stuff on TV and if I have a problem with something on I turn it off. If I have a problem with something people I'm with are watching I leave.
 
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Why should people like me be punished because you don't want your kids to see something on TV?
The only punishment that you are getting is having to hold this conversation with me. If you do not like this punishment, then bow out. I don't understand why people like you complain about a conversation that you could just stay our of if you consider it punishment.
 
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Prometheus said:
I think that you are jumping to conclusions, and that is why you are using words like *** while you mistake what you think that I am saying.

I agree with you completely. In my house, I have never exposed my child to television.

However, we have friends, and we visit them. Some of them MUST have television on , such that it is not always possible to avoid it. I cannot demand that everyone we visit have all of their family members turn off the television, as that is not always practical in today's society. It can be very difficult to make sure that my kid is never exposed to television 24 hours a day, particularly when I am not there to supervise.

Not allowing your child to watch any television might not be a good idea. It is a good way to shelter your child from the experiences that most "normal" children will have and when it comes time to make friends your child might be the odd one out. If you have taught your children what is right and wrong you shouldn't have to worry about what they see on television. But if you shelter them from everything they will grow up different from all of the other kids and probably hate you for it.
 
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Prometheus said:
The only punishment that you are getting is having to hold this conversation with me. If you do not like this punishment, then bow out. I don't understand why people like you complain about a conversation that you could just stay our of if you consider it punishment.


No the way people like me get punished by people like you are when enough people like you get outraged about violence or sexual themes on TV and write in to complain. People like you try to get TV violent TV shows canceled. But why? You do it to shelter your kids. I don't get how people can complain about TV. If you don't like something don't watch it. If your kids going places that the people are watching inappropriate shows then it's your fault for letting your kid go. Why do people always push the blame some place else?
 
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No the way people like me get punished by people like you are when enough people like you get outraged about violence or sexual themes on TV and write in to complain. People like you try to get TV violent TV shows canceled. But why? You do it to shelter your kids. I don't get how people can complain about TV. If you don't like something don't watch it. If your kids going places that the people are watching inappropriate shows then it's your fault for letting your kid go. Why do people always push the blame some place else?
You seem awfully touchy. I don't understand how you consider my attitude toward television as punishing you. You are making generalizations and lumping me in with them, as though you somehow know something that you could not know.
 
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The primary trouble with porn on the web is that there are actually photos and movies of adults having sex with kids. These aren't so very rare. Who might accidently see these is hardly the problem compared to who is being pressured, persuaded or forced to participate in them, meaning the kids in them. I would just as soon all porn be legally banned if it would help stop this child abuse.
 
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Saint said:
Yes No one (man), but GOD can!

The constitutional separation between church and state prevent such interpretations from demanding legal actions. The basis of this in the present context is that theocracies are more dangerous than porn.

Anyway, most parents don't want their children to see porn . Something more effective must be done to block porn.

I doubt it is possible to completely prevent access, but the same is true for alcohol and other drugs, premarital sex, and gasoline used for sniffing for that matter. There is no way to make the world sterile for anyone.
 
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The primary trouble with porn on the web is that there are actually photos and movies of adults having sex with kids. These aren't so very rare. Who might accidently see these is hardly the problem compared to who is being pressured, persuaded or forced to participate in them, meaning the kids in them. I would just as soon all porn be legally banned if it would help stop this child abuse.

I don't believe stopping porn will stop child abuse. The majority of child abusers don't tape it and put it on the net. Or else, we'd have heard of Clergy Gone Wild :biggrin:
 
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I don't believe stopping porn will stop child abuse.
I'm specifically refering to the child abuse of persuading, pressuring, or forcing them to participate in porn pictures and films. What kind of an adult is a kid going to grow up to be after an experience, or many experiences like that? If legally banning all porn helped to cut down on the amount of this stuff that is made, then I can live without the kinds of porn that are legal.
 
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Child porn is already illegal. Why do you feel that banning all porn would stop child porn? If anything it would probably make the problem worse by diluting resources dedicated to child porn only right now.
 
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Child porn is already illegal. Why do you feel that banning all porn would stop child porn?
I'm talking about banning porn on the web. The more demand there is for porn the more of it that is made. If yanking all porn from the web meant less child porn would be made, then I could live without the legal porn.

You may speechify in defense of your freedom to look at porn but don't forget your freedom to look at porn provides a nice, anonymous, legally protected privacy, for the people who rape children, film it, and put it on the web. I realize they're putting it on the web illegally, but no one seems to be stopping them. If banning web porn helped cut down on the number of kids made to participate in this stuff, then I could live without the legal porn on the web. Since it is illegal I don't understand why any site with child pornography isn't already automatically shut down.

The 800 pound gorilla sitting on top of the porn issue isn't the morality of sex, it's the issue of the people, particularly in foreign countries, who are forced to participate. When these are children, I can't believe anyone wouldn't have something more productive to remark than the shrug: "Well, banning porn isn't going to stop child abuse anyway, so whatdaya want?"
 
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Saint has a problem with sex. I'm talking serioulsy.

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I did not even realize she used Saint as a pseudo. Damn my mind is slow. :rofl:
 
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humanino said:
Saint has a problem with sex. I'm talking serioulsy.

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I did not even realize she used Saint as a pseudo. Damn my mind is slow. :rofl:

Saint is male.... :rofl:

No matter how "immoral" or "wrong" it is, it has been around for centuries (like the plague! :biggrin: ) and is actually a growing industry because it is becoming more... well I wouldnt say accepted, but out of the closet I suppose...
 
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Sorry Saint. I thought, your picture... :uhh: :redface:

I'd have to say that
Saint said:
Freedom is Freedom To Do Good, not Freedom to do Wrong, understand?
is really terrible a thing to say. Saint, you are dangerous man. I thought USA is the country of liberty. I am sorry, but I consider web porn a very minor issue. As Ivan Seeking said
Ivan Seeking said:
the same is true for alcohol and other drugs, premarital sex, and gasoline used for sniffing for that matter. There is no way to make the world sterile for anyone.
I feel way worse a problem for parents, the issues raised here.
 

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