Why can't we use an iron bar as magnet

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The discussion clarifies that an iron bar cannot be used as a magnet without prior magnetization due to the presence of magnetic domains that cancel each other out. At room temperature (300K), the spins in the iron do not align sufficiently to create a net magnetic field. Magnetization requires an external magnetic field to align these domains, and once magnetized, the iron can lose its magnetism if heated above the Curie point (1043K). Permanent magnets, such as Nd2Fe14B, also require initial magnetization despite having random domains upon production.

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A really basic question: since room temperature (300K) is much lower than the Curie point of iron (1043K), the spins in an iron bar at room temperature should be lined up even when the external magnetic field B=0

Then why can't we use any iron bar as magnet? Instead we have to rub the iron bar against a magnet to make the iron bar into a magnet?
 
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AlonsoMcLaren said:
Then why can't we use any iron bar as magnet
Because when it is made it settles into domains which cancel the overall field. When you force many to tend one direction is when it becomes a magnet, until it gets back up to the curie temp and it releases all magnetic moments to cancel again.
 
AlonsoMcLaren said:
Then why can't we use any iron bar as magnet?

You can. Most pieces of iron are magnetized at a very low level. (Before asking why something is true, it is important to ask if it is true). The reason the level is low is because of what jerromyjon said.
 
Even permanent magnets that you buy such as Nd2Fe14B have random domains when they are made and have to be magnetized first.
A good "hard" permanent magnet must hold this magnetization very well. This usually means that you need a very high magnetic field to magnetize it. "Soft" magnets depolarize easily. These are useful as cores in transformers, electric motors and electromagnets.
 

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