Why conservation of angular momentum is not applicable here

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The discussion centers on the application of conservation of angular momentum to a comet's elliptical orbit around the sun. A comet traveling at 2.0×104 m/s at a distance of 2.6×1011 m from the sun's center is analyzed for its speed at a distance of 5.2×1010 m. The participants clarify that angular momentum cannot be directly applied due to the radial and tangential components of velocity in elliptical orbits. The correct approach involves using the definition of angular momentum, specifically the equation 𝓛 = 𝓻 × 𝓹, where 𝓻 is the position vector and 𝓹 is the momentum vector.

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Comets travel around the sun in elliptical orbits with large eccentricities. If a comet has speed 2.0×104 m/s when at a distance of 2.6×1011 m from the center of the sun, what is its speed when at a distance of 5.2×1010 m .
Express your answer using two significant figures

I applied conservation of angular momentum. But my answer goes wrong. Why?
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Since the orbit is elliptical, the comet's velocity has a component in the direction of the sun (radial line) as well as a component perpendicular to a radial line to the sun. I'm not sure how you would determine angular momentum in this situation. You could use potential versus kinetic energy, but you'd have to know the mass of the sun (the comets mass, being much smaller than the sun's mass, could be ignored), and the problem statement doesn't include the mass of the sun.
 
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The equation for angular momentum you used includes an assumption about the relationship between the velocity vector and the radial vector.
The relation you should use is ##\vec L = \vec r \times \vec p##
[edit: beat me to it...]
 
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