Why cross product has a direction but dot product doesn't?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the differences between the cross product and dot product in vector mathematics, specifically addressing why the cross product has a direction while the dot product does not. The scope includes conceptual clarifications and technical explanations related to vector operations in three-dimensional space.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the cross product and dot product are fundamentally different operations with distinct definitions, which may explain their differing properties.
  • It is mentioned that the cross product results in a vector, while the dot product yields a scalar.
  • One participant suggests that understanding the implications and relevance of each operation is more critical than simply asking "why" one has direction and the other does not.
  • Another participant raises the concept of scalar and vector projections, indicating that while scalar projections do not have direction, vector projections do.
  • There is a correction regarding the nature of scalar and vector projections, emphasizing that scalar projections are indeed scalars, similar to the dot product.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the cross product and dot product are different in nature, but there is no consensus on the implications of these differences or the relevance of projections in this context. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the deeper significance of these operations.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the potential misunderstanding of scalar versus vector projections and the need for clarity on definitions and applications of the cross and dot products. The discussion does not resolve these ambiguities.

Pronoy Roy
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Can anyone tell me why?
 
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Because they are different things with different definitions. Why would you expect them to be similar? Do you also find it strange that one is symmetric and the other anti-symmetric?
 
Cross product is a vector, dot product is a number.
 
Here is an attempt. Look up the definition of each one. Now apply each one to two 3 dimensional vectors. It will be clear. This is just how each one is defined.
 
Pronoy Roy said:
Can anyone tell me why?
I think it might be more important for you to establish the implications and relevance of the two definitions - rather than to ask "why?" (there is no answer to that question, aamof). They are both very important and useful vector operations and both produce very meaningful and useful results. Can you think , from some example that you already know about, what the vector result of a dot product tells you, and similarly, where the cross product gives a useful result? Can you think of a quantity that isn't a vector but which is the result of the interaction of two vectors? How does the 'angle between' those two vectors affect the result? (Hint: consider Work Done)
Can you think of a vector quantity that is the result of the interaction of two other vectors and how the angle is relevant to the answer? (Hint: consider an electromagnetic effect)
 
rcgldr said:
a scalar projection has a direction
Scalar projection is a scalar just like the dot product itself.
 
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A.T. said:
Scalar projection is a scalar just like the dot product itself.
I meant a vector projection, not a scalar projection (fixed the previous post).

$$ ((A \cdot B) \ / \ |B|) \ (B \ / \ |B|) $$
 
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