Why Do Fathers Experience Premature Graying?

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The discussion revolves around the experiences of fathers regarding premature graying of hair, often linked to their children's adventurous activities. Participants share personal anecdotes, express concerns, and reflect on the emotional impact of parenting in relation to their children's risks and experiences.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note an increase in gray hair as a direct response to their children's risky activities, such as climbing and flying.
  • There is a discussion about the psychological aspects of fear and danger, with one participant suggesting that understanding this difference is crucial for both parents and children.
  • Several participants share humorous anecdotes about their children's activities and the resulting gray hair, indicating a mix of pride and concern.
  • One participant mentions the scientific aspect of hair graying as a loss of pigmentation rather than an actual color change.
  • There are playful exchanges about the potential for future activities, such as skydiving, which could further contribute to gray hair.
  • Some participants engage in light-hearted banter regarding physical fitness and body image, relating it to their experiences with climbing and health.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share similar sentiments about the emotional toll of parenting and the humorous side of graying hair, but there is no consensus on the underlying causes or implications of these experiences. The discussion remains largely anecdotal and exploratory.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect personal experiences and subjective interpretations of risk, fear, and parenting, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion also touches on the interplay between physical activities and emotional responses, but lacks rigorous scientific analysis.

Who May Find This Useful

Parents, particularly fathers, who are navigating the challenges of raising adventurous children may find this discussion relatable and engaging.

  • #31
davenn said:
sorry buddy ... but, I just couldn't help but laugh, looking at the way this thread has progressed :biggrin:
Don't be sorry. I laugh too, ... to stop the crying. :oldbiggrin: :devil:
 
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  • #32
Don, relax. I work with a guy who ice climbs, and he's never had an accident in the years I've known him. (Well, there was a close call with a table saw... :wideeyed:)
 
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  • #33
marcusl said:
I work with a guy who ice climbs, ...
My daughter lives in the Denver area and I see from your profile that you live in Bolder. Maybe they should hook up for a little ice climbing. :olduhh:
 
  • #34
Its actually loss of pigmentation in the hair not an actual "grey" (This is a science forum after all.)

I am terrified of heights.
 
  • #35
I work with a few recreational pilots, too. I could introduce her to someone who has almost finished building his own airplane, for a flying date après ice climbing!
 
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  • #36
dlgoff said:
I see from your profile that you live in Bolder
If I may be so bold, the name of the city is Boulder.
pinball1970 said:
I am terrified of heights.
Me, I'm afraid of widths. (Steven Wright - "Whenever I think of the past, it brings back memories.")
 
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  • #37
pinball1970 said:
Its actually loss of pigmentation in the hair not an actual "grey" (This is a science forum after all.)
You are so right. :bow:
 
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  • #38
Mark44 said:
If I may be so bold, the name of the city is Boulder.
:doh: Hope you believe it was just a typo. :olduhh:
 
  • #39
Mark44 said:
If I may be so bold, the name of the city is Boulder.
Me, I'm afraid of widths. (Steven Wright - "Whenever I think of the past, it brings back memories.")

I am starting climbing to lose some width actually or should that be girth? Perhaps start off doing boulders, take it steady.
 
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  • #40
pinball1970 said:
I am starting climbing to lose some width actually or should that be girth? Perhaps start off doing boulders, take it steady.
If you lose width, you'll probably also lose girth...
 
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  • #41
Mark44 said:
If you lose width, you'll probably also lose girth...

I am actually much deeper currently than I am wider so that is not necessarily correct.

I need to lose in the Z co-ordinate far more than my x.

Having second thoughts that climbing is the answer, I have enough grey hair.
 
  • #42
Mark44 said:
If you lose width, you'll probably also lose girth...

pinball1970 said:
I am actually much deeper currently than I am wider so that is not necessarily correct.

Mark is correct … I suspect you didn't/don't know what girth is ? :wink:

A loss of width ( diameter) across the mid-rift WILL result in a loss of girth ( circumference) around the mid-rift
Something I seriously need to doDave
 
  • #43
davenn said:
Something I seriously need to do
Nah. Perfect girth IMO.
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  • #44
davenn said:
Mark is correct … I suspect you didn't/don't know what girth is ? :wink:

A loss of width ( diameter) across the mid-rift WILL result in a loss of girth ( circumference) around the mid-rift
Something I seriously need to do

Dave

I know what girth is (!)... I am not spherical I am more like a pregnant lady

Some women can be enormous during the final weeks of pregnancy but you only tell this if you viewed from the front or side

I am more like that, I have well developed oblique muscles and fairly wide hips for my overall average build so there will be a very small reduction in width a large reduction in depth and an overall reduction in girth.

When I get round to it.

I am not posting a picture to illustrate it as I don't want to put people off using the site.
 
  • #45
dlgoff said:
Nah. Perfect girth IMO.
View attachment 228283

Yes, something a little like this although we do not have an end elevation view to get my point.
 
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  • #46
pinball1970 said:
I am not spherical I am more like a pregnant lady

yeah me too @ nine months for the last 5 years hahaha
dlgoff said:
Nah. Perfect girth IMO.

that was before the crap meds the specialists put me on ... tho they helped with the problem that they were treating,
but they have increased my already existing fluid retention problems and pushed me closer into T2 diabetes :cry::frown:

I would be thrilled to go back to looking like I did in that pic

Dave
 
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  • #47
Nugatory said:
Any of the mentors can take care of that, upon receipt of satisfactory photographic evidence to support the change request.
Preliminary satisfactory photographic evidence. :oldcry:

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  • #48
dlgoff said:
Preliminary satisfactory photographic evidence. :oldcry:

View attachment 230130
It’s a very cool picture but that is because its someone else’s daughter.
 
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  • #49
dlgoff said:
Preliminary satisfactory photographic evidence. :oldcry:

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That's so cool, Don …

Even tho you have a few extra grey hairs, you have to be incredibly proud of her
Congrats on her flying achievements. I have only had the controls of a light aircraft like that once.Dave
 
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  • #50
davenn said:
That's so cool, Don …
Thanks Dave.
... you have to be incredibly proud of her
Yes. Really proud of her.
 
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  • #51
Onetime while talking with my adult children they began to relate some of their exploits as kids. At one point I had to say stop I do not need to know anymore thank you. Even my sister once remarked "If only mom an dad know what I did" OK I was not perfect.
 
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  • #52
I'm glad my folks don't know most of what I got into in my teens.
 
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  • #53
nuuskur said:
I'm glad my folks don't know most of what I got into in my teens.
I wish my folks hadn't know ANY of what I got into. Especially the time dad discovered my fifty+ pints of hard cider.
 
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  • #54
Why do fathers get grey hair. One answer: puberty.

Full disclosure: my daughter has hit puberty, and I currently have a nice white beard.

nuuskur said:
I'm glad my folks don't know most of what I got into in my teens.

In the old days, parents worried because they didn't know what their teens were getting up to. In these "modern times", parents worry because they can imagine (possibly from their own teen years :wink:) what their teens are getting up to.
 
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  • #55
nuuskur said:
I'm glad my folks don't know most of what I got into in my teens.
I've heard that kids are punishment for what you did when you were younger. In that case, it's good that I never had kids. :oldtongue:
 
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  • #56
dlgoff said:
Yes. Really proud of her.

And you have every right to be :smile:

Sigh, why haven't I seen this thread earlier.
 
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  • #57
Borek said:
And you have every right to be :smile:
Thanks for saying that Sir.
Sigh, why haven't I seen this thread earlier.
No worries.
I'm sure you have plenty of other threads to go through in your mentoring.
 
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  • #59
High and fast means safe :smile:
 
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  • #60
davenn said:
... you have to be incredibly proud of her
Congrats on her flying achievements. I have only had the controls of a light aircraft like that once.
I'm extra proud today. Friday she took the FAA written test needed to get her pilot certification. She missed one question; and she's beating herself up for missing it. Go figure; but that's my daughter. Now all she needs to do is get the required flying hours. She tells me that she is planing on getting an instrument rating certification but that will be down the road.

Proud Dad expressed his pride for her accomplishments.
 
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