Why Do Fathers Experience Premature Graying?

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The discussion revolves around the experiences of fathers regarding premature graying of hair, often linked to their children's adventurous activities. Participants share personal anecdotes, express concerns, and reflect on the emotional impact of parenting in relation to their children's risks and experiences.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note an increase in gray hair as a direct response to their children's risky activities, such as climbing and flying.
  • There is a discussion about the psychological aspects of fear and danger, with one participant suggesting that understanding this difference is crucial for both parents and children.
  • Several participants share humorous anecdotes about their children's activities and the resulting gray hair, indicating a mix of pride and concern.
  • One participant mentions the scientific aspect of hair graying as a loss of pigmentation rather than an actual color change.
  • There are playful exchanges about the potential for future activities, such as skydiving, which could further contribute to gray hair.
  • Some participants engage in light-hearted banter regarding physical fitness and body image, relating it to their experiences with climbing and health.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share similar sentiments about the emotional toll of parenting and the humorous side of graying hair, but there is no consensus on the underlying causes or implications of these experiences. The discussion remains largely anecdotal and exploratory.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect personal experiences and subjective interpretations of risk, fear, and parenting, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion also touches on the interplay between physical activities and emotional responses, but lacks rigorous scientific analysis.

Who May Find This Useful

Parents, particularly fathers, who are navigating the challenges of raising adventurous children may find this discussion relatable and engaging.

  • #61
dlgoff said:
I'm extra proud today. Friday she took the FAA written test needed to get her pilot certification. She missed one question; and she's beating herself up for missing it. Go figure; but that's my daughter. Now all she needs to do is get the required flying hours. She tells me that she is planing on getting an instrument rating certification but that will be down the road.

Proud Dad expressed his pride for her accomplishments.
Awesome news... my congratulations on passing that stage :smile:

Dave
 
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  • #62
dlgoff said:
I'm extra proud ...
and getting grayer too. Misty took off, flew, and landed this jet this week:

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  • #63
Dang.
Can't stop that girl!
 
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  • #64
dlgoff said:
and getting grayer too. Misty took off, flew, and landed this jet this week:
ohhh WOW, that's an outstanding advancement :smile:
 
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  • #65
You have a very accomplished adrenaline junkie there.
 
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  • #66
marcusl said:
adrenaline junkie
You know, you may have something here. :oldsmile:
 
  • #67
I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed since it's been so long since I've posted to it. Today is my daughter's 30th birthday and after wishing her a happy birthday in an email, this is what she replied she was doing for the day:
I'm doing some aerobatics today so I think that's a pretty good birthday.
 
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  • #68
dlgoff said:
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2019 CIRRUS SF50 G2 Vision Jet
Williams International FJ33
Dual Channel Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC)
1846lb Thrust Rating

Base Aircraft Price (USD) $2,315,000
 
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  • #69
Your daughter seems really cool. Lucky her to have these opportunities. And, I'll add, as a former skydiver and rock climber I don't think what she's pictured as doing is really that dangerous. Exciting, fun, a little bit dangerous maybe.
 
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  • #70
Astronuc said:
2019 CIRRUS SF50 G2 Vision Jet
Williams International FJ33
Dual Channel Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC)
1846lb Thrust Rating

Base Aircraft Price (USD) $2,315,000
Wow. I had no idea. Glad she didn't hurt it.
 
  • #71
dlgoff said:
I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed since it's been so long since I've posted to it. Today is my daughter's 30th birthday and after wishing her a happy birthday in an email, this is what she replied she was doing for the day:
My daughter just sent me some photos of the airplanes she's been doing acrobatics with. She is in the beginning stage of her training, so her instructor is doing most of the hard maneuvers. On the phone she said during one maneuver, they were pulling 8 Gs. :bugeye:

She looks happy:
pilot misty.jpg

Here are the two planes she been training in:
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  • #72
dlgoff said:
She looks happy:
Cute necklace (and appropriate). She may want to put it in her pocket while doing aerobatics, though, to keep from getting distracted by it flipping all over the place. :smile:
 
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  • #73
berkeman said:
Cute necklace (and appropriate). She may want to put it in her pocket while doing aerobatics, though, to keep from getting distracted by it flipping all over the place. :smile:
Thanks @berkeman. I'll mention this to her.

edit: I just emailed her about this. Thanks again.
 
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  • #74
here's a pic of my daughter learning to fly the acrobatics airplane:

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  • #75
I'm surprised the picture was taken with the sky on top.
Mostly.
 
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  • #76
Here are some pics my daughter posted on FaceBook:
flying daughter.jpg

I think this is her favorite plane:
acrobat plane.jpg

This is the acrobat team I think:
acrobat team.jpg
 
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  • #78
Yeah, I wondered about those extra-large tires. I assumed that they were using some dirt/grass runways or something similar.
 
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  • #79
berkeman said:
Yeah, I wondered about those extra-large tires. I assumed that they were using some dirt/grass runways or something similar.
I really don't know, but I just emailed her and asked that she revisit this thread and see the comments about those FB pics I posted.
 
  • #80
jrmichler said:
That's not an aerobatic plane.
Any plane is an aerobatic plane if you are motivated enough.
 
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  • #81
Vanadium 50 said:
Any plane is an aerobatic plane if you are motivated enough.
That can easily not end well. I once listened to creaking noises coming from the wings of an Aeronca Champ while graying out coming down the backside of a loop while approaching redline airspeed. A non aerobatic airplane will do aerobatics, but at the cost of too many safety factors approaching 1.0 at the same time.

A student pilot, of the spoiled rich kid variety, did a loop in a Cessna 150. He succeeded, but bent the flap mechanism. He was thrown out of the flying school, and the airplane repaired.

A couple hotshot pilots during WWII read that it was impossible to loop a PBY-5A. The book was both right and wrong. They successfully looped the plane, but the entire trailing edge of the wing buckled upward about 2/3 the way back from the leading edge. They successfully landed it, but it never flew again. My father swore up and down that he was not one of those pilots, but he did admit to being there.
 
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My Daughter is at a competition. Here's the flight pattern that she will be flying:
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  • #84
Astronuc said:
That's actually a bargain.

HondaJet's Elite costs $5.25 million (it's twin engine)

https://www.businessinsider.com/hon...ide-hondas-5-million-private-jet-cabin-2019-6
This is what my daughter said when I asked her if she would like to own one.

Honda jets are nice, we got a few when I worked at Denver jetCenter so I've seen them. I wouldn't care to own a jet. I'd rather have a single-engine bush or aerobatic-type plane for fun.
 
  • #85
There are over a dozen F-14's on the government surplus list. I see them every time I look for chairs and desks. It's a twin engine, but I am sure your daughter can adapt.

It's also a two-seater, so you could ride along. Wheeeee!
 
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  • #86
This is the same plane I flew while playing LASER tag with someone else who didn't know how to fly - Marchetti SF – 260. Did a barrel roll and a 5g loop as well. Having never flown a plane before, getting one hour of training and then jumping into real dog fights was insanely intense to say the least! But there was a top gun pilot sitting next to me who could take over if we got into trouble. The scariest part was not the 30 seconds of parachute training I received. It was his verbal instructions: "If the plane catches on fire, just go ahead and jump. I'll stay with the plane." :))

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  • #87
Here's a happy photo of my daughter learning to acrobat fly:
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  • #88
dlgoff said:
Here's a happy photo of my daughter learning to acrobat fly:
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Great pic.
 
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  • #89
dlgoff said:
Here's a happy photo of my daughter learning to acrobat fly
Is the picture right-side-up?
 
  • #90
Vanadium 50 said:
Is the picture right-side-up?
I don't know. Doesn't look like it. I'll have to ask her.
 

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