Why do I have a bending moment and an axial displacement here?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of bending moments and axial displacements in the context of a flexure subjected to an asymmetrical force. Participants are exploring the relationship between these concepts and the relevant equations that describe them.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the distinction between bending moments and bending forces, questioning how these concepts relate to the deflection at a specific point. Some express confusion over the definitions and implications of the equations provided.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the definitions and relationships between bending moments and forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the necessity of a distance in defining moments, but no consensus has been reached.

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Homework Statement
I have a flexure where a asymmetrically force is applied. Why do I have a bending moment + a axial force displacement instead of a bending force?
Relevant Equations
F*l^3/3*E*I
(F*L)/E*A
Hello,

I have an flexure where the force is applied asymmetrical, I just can't visualize why their should be a bending moment instead of an bending force? How can I distinguish those? Thanks!
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Mech_LS24 said:
Homework Statement:: I have a flexure where a asymmetrically force is applied. Why do I have a bending moment + a axial force displacement instead of a bending force?
Relevant Equations:: (M*L)/EI
(F*L)/E*A

I just can't visualize why their should be a bending moment instead of an bending force?
Your question is not well defined, for me at least. The moment of any vector is its value acting through a perpendidicular distance (the cross product to be technical).
Your relevant equation are not equations. Perhaps that would be a place to start.
 
Sorry for that.

They ask what the deflection is at Point A. I thought their should be axial deflection and a bending force deflection (1 and 2). But the book states that the should be a bending moment instead of a bending force. I have added the equations in the sketch, and here below:
Delta1 = F*L/E*A
Delta2 = F*l^3/3*E*I

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*I see the one equation in the original post is wrong, I will try to fix that.
 
I don’t understand the distinction between bending moment and bending force. A force can result in bending because it has a moment about the centre of the rigid attachment.
 
Could you post the original text and diagram?
 
Lnewqban said:
Could you post the original text and diagram?
I am afraid not, it's from a document which isn't allowed to be shared.

The only thing here, I can't distinguish bending moment and bending force..
 
Mech_LS24 said:
I am afraid not, it's from a document which isn't allowed to be shared.

The only thing here, I can't distinguish bending moment and bending force..
As explained by @haruspex above, there is no moment without a distance and a force.
In this case, the distance of interest seems to be the one separating the neutral fibers from the point of application of the axial force.
 
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