Why do objects fall through curvature of spacetime?

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The discussion centers on the concept of objects moving through the curvature of spacetime, specifically addressing why objects are perceived to fall rather than rise. It is established that terms like "rising" and "falling" are relative and depend on the chosen frame of reference, particularly in the context of gravity, which reduces gravitational potential. The conversation highlights that in outer space, traditional notions of "up" and "down" become irrelevant, as gravitational interactions dictate movement towards mass centers, such as black holes. The terminology used in physics, including "gravitational potential energy," is clarified as being historically rooted and context-dependent.

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Just wondering, if the way to describe the movement of objects through spacetime is to say that they fall through the curves created in 4D spacetime, then is it a stupid question to ask why objects don't rise through spacetime? Or is this the same thing and rising and falling are one of the same in the 4D world?
 
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Hey Steve...
Lots of common colloquial terminology has historical origins. Rising and falling are two that tend to relate to the frame origin in use. Gravity acts so as to reduce gravitational potential...make it more negative and has nothing to do with 'up' or 'down', 'rising' or 'falling' except as a traditional references...analogous to such statements as look at the stars 'up' there...the sun 'rises' in the morning...all relative to earth...

In Newton's day, an apple FELL from a tree to earth. People tended to use Earth as a reference. Yet nobody tends to mention that Earth RISES towards the apple. In that case common terminology is that the Earth 'moves' towards the apple if it is mentioned at all.

In outer space there often is no such common 'up' or 'down' so when dispersed matter coalesces, as does hydrogen gas clumping together to form stars, it's uncommon to use 'falling'...but one could say particles 'fall towards the center of mass'...yet it is said things 'fall' towards a black hole via gravitational attraction, likely because the BH tends to be the reference point in such discussions.

I see wikipedia uses 'elevated' and 'height' [as conveniences]:

Gravitational energy is the potential energy associated with gravitational force, as work is required to elevate objects against Earth's gravity. The potential energy due to elevated positions is called gravitational potential energy...The factors that affect an object's gravitational potential energy are its height relative to some reference point
 

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