Why Do Parachutists Feel Weightless Despite Gravity's Pull?

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The discussion explores the phenomenon of weightlessness experienced by parachutists during free fall, particularly in a vacuum where air resistance is absent. Participants examine the relationship between gravitational force and the sensation of weightlessness, considering both theoretical and conceptual aspects of the experience.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a parachutist experiences 0g while falling in a vacuum, seeking clarification on the effects of gravity in this scenario.
  • Another participant explains that "0g" refers to the absence of forces counteracting gravity, emphasizing that while gravity acts on the parachutist, there is no upward force to create a sensation of weight.
  • A later reply reiterates that during free fall, a scale would read zero because there is no force acting against the parachutist's weight, drawing an analogy with a trapdoor scenario.
  • Participants discuss the similarity between skydivers and astronauts in orbit, noting that both are in free fall and experience weightlessness due to the lack of opposing forces.
  • One participant highlights the importance of considering inertial frames when discussing forces, suggesting that viewing the skydiver from a non-inertial frame could lead to misunderstandings about forces acting on them.
  • Another participant adds that gravity pulls equally on all parts of the body during free fall, which contributes to the sensation of weightlessness, contrasting it with the experience of weight on the ground.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the explanation of weightlessness in free fall, but there are nuances in how they articulate the relationship between gravitational force and the sensation of weight. Some points remain contested, particularly regarding the implications of viewing the situation from different frames of reference.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of distinguishing between gravitational force and the sensation of weight, as well as the role of inertial frames in understanding the forces at play. There are unresolved aspects regarding the implications of these distinctions.

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Hi Folks,

Why does a parachutist experience 0g (assuming falling in a vacuum, no drag) when falling towards the earth?
How can he not experience gravity when he is in a gravitational field which is pulling him towards the earth.
Im sure this is a classical question but I have not found a an answer online
Can anyone enlighten me?

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Bugatti
 
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bugatti79 said:
Hi Folks,

Why does a parachutist experience 0g (assuming falling in a vacuum, no drag) when falling towards the earth?
How can he not experience gravity when he is in a gravitational field which is pulling him towards the earth.

The "g" in "0g" is not a measure of the gravitational force you're experiencing, it's a measure of the forces that are stopping you from moving freely. When you're standing on the surface of the earth, your body wants to accelerate under the influence of gravity downwards at 9.8 meters per second per second, but the surface of the Earth is pushing upwards on the soles of your shoes with sufficient force to hold you stationary. If you were standing on a spring scale (these devices measure force, not mass) it would show some non-zero force.

However, when you're skydiving there's no force stopping you from falling freely. A scale under a skydiver's feet would read zero (in fact, we'd have to fasten it to his shoes to stop it from drifting away). If this isn't completely clear, you could imagine standing on a spring scale on top of a trapdoor - as long as the trapdoor is closed the scale reads your weight, but as when it opens and let's you and the scale fall free, the reading goes to zero as the scale is no longer being squeezed between your feet and the trapdoor.

As an aside... When astronauts in orbit around the Earth experience 0g, it's not because they aren't experiencing gravity (if that were the case, there wouldn't be anything holding them in orbit), it's because they're free-falling just like the skydiver. The only difference is that their trajectory doesn't intersect the surface of the Earth while the skydiver's trajectory does (which is why he will not be happy if his parachute doesn't open to stop his free fall).
 
Nugatory said:
The "g" in "0g" is not a measure of the gravitational force you're experiencing, it's a measure of the forces that are stopping you from moving freely. When you're standing on the surface of the earth, your body wants to accelerate under the influence of gravity downwards at 9.8 meters per second per second, but the surface of the Earth is pushing upwards on the soles of your shoes with sufficient force to hold you stationary. If you were standing on a spring scale (these devices measure force, not mass) it would show some non-zero force.

However, when you're skydiving there's no force stopping you from falling freely. A scale under a skydiver's feet would read zero (in fact, we'd have to fasten it to his shoes to stop it from drifting away). If this isn't completely clear, you could imagine standing on a spring scale on top of a trapdoor - as long as the trapdoor is closed the scale reads your weight, but as when it opens and let's you and the scale fall free, the reading goes to zero as the scale is no longer being squeezed between your feet and the trapdoor.

As an aside... When astronauts in orbit around the Earth experience 0g, it's not because they aren't experiencing gravity (if that were the case, there wouldn't be anything holding them in orbit), it's because they're free-falling just like the skydiver. The only difference is that their trajectory doesn't intersect the surface of the Earth while the skydiver's trajectory does (which is why he will not be happy if his parachute doesn't open to stop his free fall).

So the chutist does not feel any load on his body during vacuum freefall? Ok, that makes sense.
Thanks!
 
Nugatory said:
The "g" in "0g" is not a measure of the gravitational force you're experiencing, it's a measure of the forces that are stopping you from moving freely. When you're standing on the surface of the earth, your body wants to accelerate under the influence of gravity downwards at 9.8 meters per second per second, but the surface of the Earth is pushing upwards on the soles of your shoes with sufficient force to hold you stationary. If you were standing on a spring scale (these devices measure force, not mass) it would show some non-zero force.

However, when you're skydiving there's no force stopping you from falling freely. A scale under a skydiver's feet would read zero (in fact, we'd have to fasten it to his shoes to stop it from drifting away). If this isn't completely clear, you could imagine standing on a spring scale on top of a trapdoor - as long as the trapdoor is closed the scale reads your weight, but as when it opens and let's you and the scale fall free, the reading goes to zero as the scale is no longer being squeezed between your feet and the trapdoor.

As an aside... When astronauts in orbit around the Earth experience 0g, it's not because they aren't experiencing gravity (if that were the case, there wouldn't be anything holding them in orbit), it's because they're free-falling just like the skydiver. The only difference is that their trajectory doesn't intersect the surface of the Earth while the skydiver's trajectory does (which is why he will not be happy if his parachute doesn't open to stop his free fall).

an important point to note in this answer is that to remember to measure the forces from an inertial frame otherwise the pseudo force concept will come into play. that is avoid viewing the skydiver in the frame in which he is at rest
 
bugatti79 said:
So the chutist does not feel any load on his body during vacuum freefall? Ok, that makes sense.
Thanks!

Right. Another way to think of it is that gravity pulls on every single piece of your body equally. Every cell and every atom in your body is experiencing the same force, and so there's no stretching or pulling or pushing between them going on. And so, you will feel NOTHING. Weightlessness.

On earth, even though gravity is still pulling on ALL of you equally, the ground is pushing back on you only at your feet (or whatever). That force is then transferred through your bones and flesh, and you WILL feel that.
 

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