Why Do the First Two Eigenvectors of a Periodic Potential Look the Way They Do?

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The discussion revolves around simulating the first two eigenvectors for a periodic potential described by V(x)=V0cos(x). Participants are tasked with explaining the characteristics of these eigenvectors and their appearance in relation to the potential.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the visual characteristics of the eigenvectors, noting their periodic and envelope parts. Questions arise regarding the implications of the potential being within an infinite square well and how this affects the behavior of the eigenvectors at various positions.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering guidance on how to characterize the eigenvectors and questioning assumptions about the potential's influence. There is an exploration of different boundary conditions and their effects on the eigenvectors, indicating a productive direction without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are considering the effects of the infinite square well and periodic boundary conditions on the behavior of the eigenvectors, as well as the implications of tunneling on the wave function's characteristics.

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I am asked to simulate the first two eigenvectors for a periodic potential V(x)=V0cos(x). I have attached those two (blue is first, green is second). And I am then asked to explain why they look the way they do.
I wrote: Because a particle needs to tunnel through a lot of potential barriers to reach high and low x values it is natural that we see the wave function decreasing symmetrically about x=0. However I am not quite sure of this - does anyone think it sounds reasonable?
 

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I think you need to characterize the functions: how do they look? What is striking about how they look?
Otherwise it just looks like you are hand-waving... specify what it is you are trying to explain.

i.e. it has a periodic part and an envelope part - what's special about them?

aside:
It looks like your potential is actually the sinusoid inside an infinite square well.
 
yes it is. But I don't think the fact that the potential is trapped inside a well dictates the behaviour at high lxl. Because I tried expanding the width of the well and then found that they went to zero way before the boundaries.
Well I don't really know what to say, other than the fact that they have a periodic part which is damped heavily as we move away from x=0. And then I tried to give an explanation for that using the idea of tunnelling.
 
I tried expanding the width of the well and then found that they went to zero way before the boundaries.
The envelope curve went to zero before the edges of the well? Wouldn't that only happen if the periodic function did not occupy the entire well? i.e. what is suppressing the envelope besides the infinite square well?

Anyway - guiding questions in post #2 still stand.

I'll add one:
What happens if you'd set periodic boundary conditions instead?
 
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