Why do we feel tired when holding something without any movement?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the phenomenon of feeling tired when holding an object without movement, questioning the relationship between force, energy, and muscle tension. Participants examine the concepts of work, energy expenditure, and the biological mechanisms involved in maintaining muscle tension.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that maintaining muscle tension requires energy, even when there is no displacement, as seen in the analogy of pushing against a wall.
  • Others argue that while mechanical work is zero due to lack of displacement, biological systems still require chemical energy to sustain muscle tension.
  • A participant questions whether muscles lose energy only when they are actively contracted, likening them to springs.
  • Another participant clarifies that muscle fibers continuously contract and relax to maintain tension, which consumes chemical energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that energy is required to maintain muscle tension, but there is some debate regarding the analogy of muscles to springs and the nature of energy loss.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of work and energy in biological systems, as well as the implications of muscle function in this context.

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Hello everyone :)

Could someone explain me how is it possible that we "lose energy" when we hold something in our hands though there is no shift/displacement? We feel it physically - tiredness.

I can generalize this question - to keep something at certain height we have to use force. But work is scalar product of force and shift, so in this case it seems to be zero. Do we need energy to "generate" force which keeps something in fixed possition?
 
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Yes. Same as pushing against a sturdy wall. Maintaining muscle tension requires metabolism to use up calories but doesn't yield more potential energy so physically you don't do work.
 
Vicol said:
But work is scalar product of force and shift, so in this case it seems to be zero.
The mechanical work done on the object is zero, as there is no displacement.

Vicol said:
Do we need energy to "generate" force which keeps something in fixed possition?
Yes we do, as we are biological systems. It requires chemical energy ("food") for us to keep our muscles under tension.

Of course, you could just place the object on a shelf. :wink:
 
Our muslces work like spring, don't they? I thought we lose energy only to squeeze spring, not to mantain it squeezed :)
 
Vicol said:
Our muslces work like spring, don't they?
Not really. Your muscle fibers continually contract and relax to maintain tension. That takes chemical energy.
 

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