Why do we only work with vector space isomorphisms over a fixed field?

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I was working on a problem in field extensions (for a 3rd-year ring theory class), and came to a point where I essentially had the following situation...

[itex]F[/itex] is a field isomorphic to [itex]G[/itex], and [itex]G'[/itex] is for all intents and purposes, some set. We can then consider the vector spaces [itex]G'_F[/itex] and [itex]G'_G[/itex].

I wondered to myself if it was true that [itex]G'_F[/itex] was isomorphic to [itex]G'_G[/itex]. However, in my mathematical career I've only ever worked with the notion of vector space isomorphisms over a fixed field.

I ended up solving the problem differently, but the question remained... What happens if you don't fix the field?

I suppose the first inherent problem with working with an unfixed field is that the definition of a linear map would have to be changed; it would have to be something like... for [itex]u,v\in V[/itex] and [itex]α[/itex] in the field, a linear map is something which satisfies [itex]L(αv+u)=l(α)L(v)+L(u)[/itex] where [itex]l[/itex] is a field homomorphism specified in the definition of [itex]L[/itex].

Aside from this however, has anybody ever tried doing this, and seeing if properties like dimension are preserved under a "suitable" definition of vector space isomorphism over an unfixed field?
 
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christoff said:
I was working on a problem in field extensions (for a 3rd-year ring theory class), and came to a point where I essentially had the following situation...

[itex]F[/itex] is a field isomorphic to [itex]G[/itex], and [itex]G'[/itex] is for all intents and purposes, some set. We can then consider the vector spaces [itex]G'_F[/itex] and [itex]G'_G[/itex].


...and then [itex]\,G'\,[/itex] is not only "a set": it must be both an abelian group and a module over both fields [itex]\,F\,,\,G\,[/itex] ...



I wondered to myself if it was true that [itex]G'_F[/itex] was isomorphic to [itex]G'_G[/itex]. However, in my mathematical career I've only ever worked with the notion of vector space isomorphisms over a fixed field.

I ended up solving the problem differently, but the question remained... What happens if you don't fix the field?


If the module structures over both fields (module over field = vector space, of course) are preserved under the isomorphism

(of rings) [itex]\,F\cong G\,[/itex], then yes: [itex]\,G'_F\cong G'_G[/itex] .

I suppose the first inherent problem with working with an unfixed field is that the definition of a linear map would have to be changed; it would have to be something like... for [itex]u,v\in V[/itex] and [itex]α[/itex] in the field, a linear map is something which satisfies [itex]L(αv+u)=l(α)L(v)+L(u)[/itex] where [itex]l[/itex] is a field homomorphism specified in the definition of [itex]L[/itex].

Aside from this however, has anybody ever tried doing this, and seeing if properties like dimension are preserved under a "suitable" definition of vector space isomorphism over an unfixed field?

All the algebraic invariants, under the above assumptions I wrote, are preserved: linearly independent

sets, dimensions, etc., and you're right about the definition of linear map but only if we insist in working with both vector

spaces [itex]\,G'_F\,,\,G'_G\,[/itex] , something that seems to me superfluous and confusing.

DonAntonio