Why Does a Fresnel Lens Create an Upright Image in a Galilean Telescope Setup?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the behavior of images produced by a Fresnel lens in a Galilean telescope setup, specifically addressing why an upright image is perceived when viewed directly through the lens versus an inverted image when a screen is placed on the opposite side.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a Fresnel lens behaves similarly to a plano-convex lens, producing an upright image when viewed from either side.
  • Another participant mentions that while geometric optics suggests similar behavior for plano-convex lenses, wave optics may introduce differences that are typically negligible except in specific contexts like lasers.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the discrepancy between seeing an upright image with the naked eye and an inverted image when using a screen, questioning the geometric optics framework applied.
  • A later reply provides a link to a resource on object-image relations in converging lenses, suggesting further reading but not addressing the specific question directly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the reasons behind the differing perceptions of the image orientation. Multiple viewpoints and questions remain unresolved regarding the optical behavior of the Fresnel lens.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the definitions of image orientation and the conditions under which the images are viewed, which are not fully explored. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or conceptual steps involved in the observations made.

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I have a Fresnel lens which is equal-ant to a Plano Convex lens, Consider object on one side and my eye is on the other side of the lens, when I see through that lens I always do see an upright image of same size even if I flip the lens, Can anyone please tell me geometric optics equal-ant of this configuration.


eye--------200-500mm di ---------- FRESNEL lens ------------- 500mm dis-------------OBJ
 
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Considering only geometric optics, plano-convex lenses work the same when viewed from either side.

There are slight differences for wave optics, but they are seldom noticeable except in the context of lasers and the minimization of phase errors.

The best way to estimate the focal length is allow sunlight to fall on the lens, and measure the distance when it forms an image.
 
MY question is why I do see upright image with naked eye if eye look from other side of lens, while if I place screen on other side I do see inverted image which it should be.

If I do use simple geometric optics Its will be 1-OBJ 2-LENS and 3-Image, but if there is no screen on image plan & I see it with naked eye I do always see upright image.
 

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