Why does a Pressure Washer clean better than a Garden Hose?

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The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of pressure washers compared to garden hoses in cleaning surfaces, particularly focusing on the roles of fluid velocity and pressure in the cleaning process. Participants explore the underlying physics, including Bernoulli's equation and the drag equation, as well as the interaction of water with dirt and other materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the dynamic pressure in Bernoulli's equation, which relates pressure to fluid velocity, explains the increased cleaning effectiveness of pressure washers.
  • Others argue that both increased fluid velocity and pressure contribute to the higher forces acting on debris, enhancing the cleaning process.
  • A participant questions whether an increase in velocity consistently results in an increase in force on an object in the fluid streamline, seeking clarification on this relationship.
  • Concerns are raised about the need for water to penetrate gaps between dirt and surfaces, suggesting that atmospheric pressure and chemical bonds may complicate the cleaning process.
  • One participant calculates a specific water velocity (14.24 m/s) needed for ram-pressure to exceed atmospheric pressure, while another suggests a slightly different value (14.142 m/s) as a comparative measure between pressure washers and garden hoses.
  • Discussion includes the impact of geometry and chemical interactions on cleaning effectiveness, indicating that these factors may also play significant roles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the relationship between fluid velocity, pressure, and cleaning effectiveness, with no clear consensus on the specific mechanics involved or the exact velocities required for effective cleaning.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the effectiveness of cleaning may depend on additional factors such as the geometry of contact and the nature of the materials involved, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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If you think about a pressure washer and its ability to wash debris from a surface much more effectively than a garden hose, is this explained by it's increased fluid velocity, pressure, or both? Due to its increased velocity and pressure, can we assume that the forces acting on debris are higher?
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In Bernoulli's equation, you have static, dynamic, and hydrostatic pressures equal to a constant. In one sense, I'm wondering if the dynamic part of the equation explains this since -> Pressure = (1/2*rho*velocity^2) and pressure can be expressed as a force / unit area, therefore, an increase in velocity translates to an increase in Force.

There is also the drag equation:
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An increase in velocity would also be an increase in force. It's the same exponential relationship, so I'm wondering if it's synonymous.

Is it safe to say an increase in velocity results in an increase in force on an object in that streamline? Can somebody help answer/explain this? Thanks!
 
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JoeyF said:
Summary:: If you think about a pressure washer and its ability to wash debris from a surface much more effectively than a garden hose, is this explained by it's increased fluid velocity, pressure, or both? Due to its increased velocity and pressure, can we assume that the forces acting on debris are higher?
Yes to everything. The velocity is higher, therefore the force and pressure on the incident surface are both higher.

JoeyF said:
Is it safe to say an increase in velocity results in an increase in force on an object in that streamline? Can somebody help answer/explain this?
Yes, that's correct. This is why it takes more power to move a ship faster through the water or a plane faster through the air.
 
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JoeyF said:
Summary:: If you think about a pressure washer and its ability to wash debris from a surface much more effectively than a garden hose, is this explained by it's increased fluid velocity, pressure, or both? Due to its increased velocity and pressure, can we assume that the forces acting on debris are higher?

Is it safe to say an increase in velocity results in an increase in force on an object in that streamline? Can somebody help answer/explain this?
Cleaning concrete with water requires the water open and enter the gap between the dirt and the concrete. The dirt may be held in place by atmospheric pressure and some chemical bonds. Materials such as oil, bitumen or wax, may be quite difficult to separate from what was dry concrete. When the only solvent available is water, the pressure must break the bond between the dirt and the originally dry concrete.

What water velocity is needed for the ram-pressure, ½·ρ·v², to exceed atmospheric pressure?
 
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Baluncore said:
Cleaning concrete with water requires the water open and enter the gap between the dirt and the concrete. The dirt may be held in place by atmospheric pressure and some chemical bonds. Materials such as oil, bitumen or wax, may be quite difficult to separate from what was dry concrete. When the only solvent available is water, the pressure must break the bond between the dirt and the originally dry concrete.

What water velocity is needed for the ram-pressure, ½·ρ·v², to exceed atmospheric pressure?
14.24 m/s
 
I think 14.142 m/s would qualify as “slower than a pressure washer”, and “faster than a garden hose”.

The geometry of the contact and the chemical bonds will make a difference, but so will disintegration of a particulate material, or the chemical solution of a cement or glue in the water.
 

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