Why Does a Smaller Mass Reach the End of a Frictionless Track First?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two objects of different masses being pushed with equal forces on a frictionless track. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the relationship between mass, force, and velocity, particularly why the smaller mass reaches the end of the track first despite the absence of friction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, questioning which mass experiences greater acceleration. There is a discussion about the implications of friction on acceleration and whether acceleration can be zero in this scenario.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into Newton's second law and kinematics. Some guidance has been provided regarding the application of forces and the resulting acceleration, but multiple interpretations of the problem are still being explored.

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There is a focus on understanding the effects of mass on acceleration and velocity, with participants questioning assumptions about friction and the nature of the forces involved. The original poster's misunderstanding of the problem setup is acknowledged, but not resolved.

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Hi, on my recent test there was a question stating 2 objects, one with a mass of m, and another with a mass of 4m, are pushed with equal forces on a frictionless track. The question asked which object will reach the end first and I said they will reach at the same time because there is no friction. But the right answer is the smaller mass will reach there first. I don't know how this works into everything in the equations of physics and how force, mass and velocity (not acceleration) is related. Help please!

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F=ma

Thanks a lot
 
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You know how force relates to mass and acceleration. Which mass will have the greater acceleration?
How does velocity depend on acceleration?
 
Shouldn't acceleration be 0 in this case because there is no friction on track?
 
Q7heng said:
Shouldn't acceleration be 0 in this case because there is no friction on track?
I have no idea why you would think that.
Acceleration results from a nonzero net force. If there is an applied force and nothing to oppose it then there will be acceleration.
Indeed, there is less likely to be acceleration when there is friction.
 
Q7heng said:
Shouldn't acceleration be 0 in this case because there is no friction on track?

That would be the case if they were coasting down the track. However the question as written in post #1 states they are being pushed down the track by a force.
 
∑Fx=ma (Newton's Second Law)

F(Push)=ma The only force acting in the direction of motion is the push.

We can also write Newton's second law for the y-direction, but it doesn't tell us anything. ∑Fy=N-mg=0 →N=mg.

Back to the x-direction, we found that a=F(Push)/m by solving Newton's second law in the x-direction for a.

Now we can use kinematics. Since distance is implicitly given, I would use the equation,

v2=2a(xf-xi)=2aΔx

So,

v=√2aΔx or v=√2(F/m)Δx

since m is on the bottom, for a given Δx (i.e. the length of the track) v gets larger as m gets smaller
 

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